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Old 03-01-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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Tuscaloosa county has been hovering at 11% over the past decade. I don't think we'll see them in Bham's MSA or CSA.
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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What's more, as satellite cities Tuscaloosa, Gadsden, and Anniston are absorbed into the Birmingham MSA for statistical purposes (An inevitability, since Birmingham is already now covering those counties as part of the DMA, not to mention Jasper, Clanton and Cullman), then look for the metro population to swell to roughly 1,650,000 in the next decade, even before any actual population growth occurs.
Tuscaloosa 11%
Etowah 8.6%
Calhoun 7%

It doesn't look like any of those will be close.

If you want to bring in the DMA:
Birmingham-Anniston-Tuscaloosa DMA 1,916,000
Mobile-Pensacola-Ft Walton Beach DMA 1,398,600
Huntsville-Decatur-Florence DMA 1,010,000
Montgomery-Selma DMA 634,550
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:51 PM
 
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Tuscaloosa 11%
Etowah 8.6%
Calhoun 7%

It doesn't look like any of those will be close.

If you want to bring in the DMA:
Birmingham-Anniston-Tuscaloosa DMA 1,916,000
Mobile-Pensacola-Ft Walton Beach DMA 1,398,600
Huntsville-Decatur-Florence DMA 1,010,000
Montgomery-Selma DMA 634,550
Yep. Pretty much says it right there.
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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Tuscaloosa county has been hovering at 11% over the past decade. I don't think we'll see them in Bham's MSA or CSA.
It really doesn't have anything to do with growth rate. It has to do with the amount of economic influence that a particular city exerts over a broader geographic area. In that sense, with the continued growth of transportation, distribution, etc., in the Birmingham MSA, I don't think it's much of a leap for Tuscaloosa to get sucked in. Already, a large proportion of Tuscaloosa retail dollar migrate to the Birmingham MSA, as well as commuters. As the two areas become more and more interwoven, the Birmingham MSA will absorb Tuscaloosa's sometime in the next decade.
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:13 PM
 
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I can't even imagine.
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Old 03-01-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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It really doesn't have anything to do with growth rate. It has to do with the amount of economic influence that a particular city exerts over a broader geographic area.
It deals with commute rates which is what I listed.

For a county to be included in Birmingham's MSA the county needs to commute 25% of its employees to Jefferson county or 15% for it to become part of the CSA.

So, in essence none of those counties are close to being added to Birmingham's metro.
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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The Tuscaloosa,Etowah,and etc debate is very similar to the Washington,Jackson,Green,George,and Escambia(Fl) county issue in Mobile I assume.Just from observation one would think that they should be added to Mobile`s CSA but the employee commuting patterns are saying something different.So I guess Birmingham has the same issue.

The Birmingham 11 county CSA would be around 1.6 million

The Mobile-Baldwin-Washington-Jackson-Green-George- Escambia CSA would be 1,117,249
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Metro Birmingham, AL
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It deals with commute rates which is what I listed.

For a county to be included in Birmingham's MSA the county needs to commute 25% of its employees to Jefferson county or 15% for it to become part of the CSA.

So, in essence none of those counties are close to being added to Birmingham's metro.
You never know what will happen between now and 2020. Chambers County was at one time a part of the Atlanta CSA, Im not sure if it still is or not. Cleburne and Randolph Counties are part of the Atlanta TV market, so adding Calhoun, Etowah, Talladega and Tuscaloosa to the Birmingham CSA is not so far fetch.
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Metro Birmingham, AL
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It really doesn't have anything to do with growth rate. It has to do with the amount of economic influence that a particular city exerts over a broader geographic area. In that sense, with the continued growth of transportation, distribution, etc., in the Birmingham MSA, I don't think it's much of a leap for Tuscaloosa to get sucked in. Already, a large proportion of Tuscaloosa retail dollar migrate to the Birmingham MSA, as well as commuters. As the two areas become more and more interwoven, the Birmingham MSA will absorb Tuscaloosa's sometime in the next decade.
So IF Tuscaloosa County is added to the MSA or CSA, what about Greene and Hale Counties?. Those two areas are currently in the Tuscaloosa MSA.
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Old 03-02-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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So IF Tuscaloosa County is added to the MSA or CSA, what about Greene and Hale Counties?. Those two areas are currently in the Tuscaloosa MSA.
Yeah! I'm from Greene County and we have all Birmingham channels!
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