Is Birmingham a "major city"? (Mobile, Greenville: theatre, salvaged)

[JoeTarheel]

Originally Posted by raj kapoor

I speak the truth as I see it. As to Atlanta, I was speaking of large historic commercial buildings, not neighborhood nodes and houses and apts. (I also don't consider the old Sears bldg. as a jewel, although I think that what is being done with it is good) (there are still some nice structures on Peachtree, but not downtown except for the Candler bldg and maybe one or two more; for pete's sake they even tore down most of Rich's) (I know the Fox is still there and yes, lol, I know the city very well.......) (you do know they tore down the Loew's Grand where Gone With The Wind premiered)
Read Charlotte's history. It is a late comer and definitely has been driven by its relationship to Atlanta. Gold and banking built it. Fifty years ago most Carolinians would have wagered that Raleigh would be the dominant city in the Carolinas today. And it may someday. The history of cities should teach us one thing, their fates are ever changing and unpredictable. Cities that are not fully developed are the next hot spots and the catalyst can be many things unseen today.

I'm guessing you are a visitor to the 'HAM' thread, or have no connection with he city; have fun.

raj

They didn't tear down the Loew's Grand, it burned down. That kind of takes away your credibility in my opinion.

You are completely overlooking the main historic core of Atlanta, Fairlie-Poplar....it's near the Candler Building but not on Peachtree, so a lot of visitors miss out on it. As I posted earlier, you should really look into it if you're truly interested in historical buildings. It's almost all 19th and early 20th century buildings - commercial buildings - it is 25 square blocks and one of the largest and most intact historic districts in Atlanta. Fairlie-Poplar, Atlanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Also, Castleberry Hill is a 19th century warehouse district turned into lofts and restaurants/bars Castleberry Hill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not trying to convince you to take my word for it...look into it for yourself so we don't continue having the same conversation. This thread is about Birmingham - not Atlanta.

[City Data Guy]

If we're going strictly by population, I wouldn't call it a major city in the country as a whole. Its population in 2010 was only 212,000 and its population has been declining since 1970. It peaked at 340,000 in 1960. The metro has 1.3 million people, which barely puts it in the top fifty metro areas. Not to mention it didn't even grow by a percentage point since 2010.

Source

Birmingham is ranked at #47.

[JoeTarheel]

Originally Posted by raj kapoor

The Carolinas have lots of little cities and a couple of large cities. Huntsville, Montgomery, and Mobile all have MSA pops around a half million and yet if you drove into them or Greenville you would never guess Greenville is as large. The central urban area is just not built out for some reason. I know the city well but not the extended areas, but they must be well developed because it just isn't in downtown Greenville. And, that may be a good thing because I find Greenville to be a very pleasant and civilized city.

raj

Lots of little cities in the Carolinas? That's not true either...I'm not sure why you keep posting stuff like this, but:

NC has 3 metros over 1 million (Charlotte, the Triangle, the Triad), and 3 more at or near half a million (Asheville, Fayetteville, Wilmington); SC has 1 metro over 1 million (Greenville-Spartanburg) and 2 between half a million and 1 million (Charleston, Columbia). That isn't mention the "little cities".

[JoeTarheel]

Originally Posted by BoomRShine

It would seem that she doesn't know her own country very well.

Auckland, New Zealand's metro population is over 1,500,000. This is over an area of just 216 square miles. (Even the urban population is around 1,400,000, in an area of just over 186 square miles.)

Contrast this with Birmingham. Birmingham's metro population is just under 1,150,000. This is over an area of around 5,300 square miles, nearly twenty-five times the area of Auckland's metro area.

To be fair she did say that it was a few years ago...maybe Auckland's population has grown larger than Birmingham's since then?

[sleepless in Bham]

I think we seriously need to nail down what makes a city/metro "major".

If having a pro sports franchise makes an a city major, doesnt that mean Green Bay, WI is a major city?.

Birmingham is maybe a major city regionally, not so much nationally.

[birminghamster]

Originally Posted by sleepless in Bham

I think we seriously need to nail down what makes a city/metro "major".

That's why I started this thread in the first place anyway.

[cpg35223]

Okay. Here's the definition:

Major -- Any city where I live.

Minor -- Any city that isn't privileged enough to have me as a resident.

There. I hope that clarifies matters somewhat.

[birminghamster]

Originally Posted by cpg35223

okay. Here's the definition:

Major -- any city where i live.

Minor -- any city that isn't privileged enough to have me as a resident.

There. I hope that clarifies matters somewhat.

lol

[jakabedy]

Originally Posted by cpg35223

Okay. Here's the definition:

Major -- Any city where I live.

Minor -- Any city that isn't privileged enough to have me as a resident.

There. I hope that clarifies matters somewhat.

/thread

[sleepless in Bham]

Originally Posted by birminghamster

That's why I started this thread in the first place anyway.

I know, I know, but 50 people are gonna have 50 definitions of what major city/metro is.