What suburbs will rise/fall over the next 10-20 years? (Birmingham: real estate, mobile home)

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

My vote is Fultondale and other areas northwest to northeast for the downslide. They are teetering on the edge. Essentially all of northern Jeffco. For the up, Mountain Brook and Vestavia will obviously stay strong. I would guess Hoover, bigger houses going in everywhere, plus new developments like Whole Foods.

I actually think Bessemer is making a comeback. Or, south Bessemer.

Thoughts?

[preguntas]

I suppose that I shouldn't even respond to this thread since it reveals that you don't know much about the subject you brought up.


The northern arc of Jefferson county is just reaching its point of opportunity for growth and progress. (I-22 and I-65, along with I-422 as its sections open) You should also notice that both Blount and Cullman counties are very prosperous places just beyond the northern suburbs. (this does and will continue to have an impact on the north side of town.) The southern arc will continue to evolve and build on what they have. You should notice the same thing is happening in the city itself.


So essentially the prosperous are rising and those that are not prosperous will stagnate if they don't make new choices. It is not about suburbs, it is about people who do the same thing over and over expecting different results. (remember that at the polls) The suburbs are all fairly healthy except on the west side of town; both they and the outlying inner city neighborhoods need to embrace progress instead of a vigilant status quo.


Look up houses on real estate sites for Morris. These are not the neighborhoods of an area headed down. The older parts of Gardendale and Fultondale will gentrify quickly; they are just too well located. I hope this brings some sense to what you think is going on.

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by preguntas

I suppose that I shouldn't even respond to this thread since it reveals that you don't know much about the subject you brought up.


The northern arc of Jefferson county is just reaching its point of opportunity for growth and progress. (I-22 and I-65, along with I-422 as its sections open) You should also notice that both Blount and Cullman counties are very prosperous places just beyond the northern suburbs. (this does and will continue to have an impact on the north side of town.) The southern arc will continue to evolve and build on what they have. You should notice the same thing is happening in the city itself.


So essentially the prosperous are rising and those that are not prosperous will stagnate if they don't make new choices. It is not about suburbs, it is about people who do the same thing over and over expecting different results. (remember that at the polls) The suburbs are all fairly healthy except on the west side of town; both they and the outlying inner city neighborhoods need to embrace progress instead of a vigilant status quo.


Look up houses on real estate sites for Morris. These are not the neighborhoods of an area headed down. The older parts of Gardendale and Fultondale will gentrify quickly; they are just too well located. I hope this brings some sense to what you think is going on.

I may not know what I'm talking about, which is why I asked this question. I'm just looking at decades of white flight and things like that and figure it will continue. Maybe it has halted and I hope it has. I do think eventually people will simply get tired of driving forever as a commute. I know downtown is seeing an influx, so will that take away from certain suburbs? Who knows.

[Tourian]

I think Fultondale and Gardendale and Cullman will start to grow. To me they have been content to be sleepy bedroom communities despite the fact that 1 major interstate runs right through the middle of them and now with the added benefit of 22 and the coming of 422 like Preguntas has said. Gardendale will finally develop Fieldstown Rd, more jobs are coming to 79 corridor which will help bring along Pinson, Morris, Kimberly etc.


The areas I see with no particular upside will continue to be the west: Fairfield, Midfield, Hueytown, Pleasant Grove - nothing is particularly happening out that way while Bessemer continues to hold on to all the cards so to speak with what is out there in the form of both commercial and industrial. Jasper, Adamsville, Graysville will all benefit from 22.

[GotLuv4Bham]

Here is my list

Will fail:
Fairfield, Brighton, Lipscomb, Tarrant, Center Point

Will continue to lose luster:
Hueytown, Pleasant Grove, Irondale

Will continue to prosper:
Mountain Brook, Vestavia Hills, Hoover, Homewood

Will be just fine:
Bessemer, Trussville, Gardendale, Fultondale, Pelham

Will gain residents and become prosperous:
Birmingham

[preguntas]

Originally Posted by GotLuv4Bham

Here is my list

Will fail:
Fairfield, Brighton, Lipscomb, Tarrant, Center Point

Will continue to lose luster:
Hueytown, Pleasant Grove, Irondale

Will continue to prosper:
Mountain Brook, Vestavia Hills, Hoover, Homewood

Will be just fine:
Bessemer, Trussville, Gardendale, Fultondale, Pelham

Will gain residents and become prosperous:
Birmingham

It is your list, but I suggest that Trussville should be in the prosper category. It, Leeds and Moody have the biggest potential in the east, and Trussville is already booming with both commercial and residential.
Also, did you leave out Alabaster. Its growth has been dynamic. It was once a mobile home community and now there are hundreds of homes approaching millions of dollars. I believe its success will pull Pelham along with it. (being wedged between Hoover and Alabaster, how can it not have a strong future)

[GotLuv4Bham]

Originally Posted by preguntas

It is your list, but I suggest that Trussville should be in the prosper category. It, Leeds and Moody have the biggest potential in the east, and Trussville is already booming with both commercial and residential.
Also, did you leave out Alabaster. Its growth has been dynamic. It was once a mobile home community and now there are hundreds of homes approaching millions of dollars. I believe its success will pull Pelham along with it. (being wedged between Hoover and Alabaster, how can it not have a strong future)

Yeah, there are just too many little cities to list. Lol! Oh, and Trussville is one of those cities that are not underachieving or overachieving. Its just Trussville. It's a really nice community. I agree with you about Leeds, Moody, and the eastern cities.

[Tourian]

I think Trussville is still striving to be the Hoover of the east. They have the (growing) numbers and the interstate frontage to pull it off. Hwy 11 is already a mess but they are still trying to develop and add more. Before Fresh Market's new owners put the brakes on they were set to get another strip center with FM as the anchor. There's also plans to develop Deerfoot Parkway with some sort of shopping development. Costco wants/wanted to put a store there with an attached development but I think that might fall on the Birmingham side of the 459/59 interchange. 422 will eventually get to them too.

[BamaDave]

Fultondale has such a great location, it really could take off at some point. Gardendale and Fultondale are kind of insular places, with many long term residents. A lot of the younger people grew up there. I don't know if I would want to move to either place as a transplant coming into the Birmingham area, but down the road things could change.

[TimCity2000]

I do think Leeds will continue to explode as well