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Old 03-11-2008, 11:18 PM
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Default New Ham Forum!!!!!

Woah!!! Look at THIS!!! A new forum for Birmingham!!!
WHOO HOOO!
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:24 AM
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Here's a testimony to the small-timeness of Burminham: Huntsville had it's own dedicated forum before the supposed hub of the state did!

Birmingham isn't and never should be proclaimed a "great city." It is neither "great," nor is it a true "city."

Granted, Birmingham indeed has its inarguably distinct (perhaps great) attributes: stellar medical and banking sectors, football mania, barbeque, and O so many rolling hills! -- to name a few. But B'ham is widely regarded locally, regionally, and nationally as a bastion of mediocrity, hopelessly provincial, simultaneously libertarian and entitlement-dominated politically (a caustic brew, contrary to progress). B'ham is homogenously homogenous and curiously meek and deferential in relation to its regional rivals such as Atlanta and Nashville.

Note: The endless waves of rolling hills are a bit mind-numbing -- one after another after another after another, up and down, up and down... when not moving through the labyrinthian sinews of Burminham Lanes and Roads and Ways, one is left feeling miserably cloistered within a bizarre urban paradox of so-called "metropolitan city life" yet you're always an ominous ridge-crest-and-valley away from an abutting 'hood... all the while no sidewalks, and no public transportation to speak of, no real bookstores, no real libraries, no modern cultural offerings... driving through the area -- which one finds oneself doing often in order to compensate for the sprawling nature of the Godforsaken metro layout -- leaves one wondering, Was that a car ride through Birmingham or a virtual trip through the Mindbender at Six Flags whilst in a car meandering through the Ham? Mix in a river (not a creek), a lake (not a muddy dammed pool), a bay, ocean, mountain, desert, spire, canyon -- VARIETY PLEASE! DAMN THE MONOTONY!

Birmingham might have deserved designation as a city at some point in time: during the vibrant Sloss years as a bustling crossroads sung about in pop songs -- speaking of, back when Erskine Hawkins roamed the streets of Ensley during the Roaring 20's of swangin' Tuxedo Junction fame... or back when the "Heaviest Corner on Earth," and adjacent downtown corridors had a buzzing nightlife and crowds of people spilled out of downtown retail and hotspots ( and I'm not talking for three days out of the year during City Stages) -- back when the Heaviest Corner was something more than an oversized paperweight for Jim Reed's stack of forgotten memories (of a forgottable city, ironically) and rare books (this, in a city where the average person might read at the Hardy Boys level, IF he reads a'tall).

Birmingham, during my grandparents lifetime, was a place to be. It was a major force of the Southeast, for the nation for that matter. Today it is barely a leading force within its own state. Can you imagine Macon, GA getting its own City-Data forum before Atlanta?

The B'ham of today is waaay too small time, bereft of a pulse, car-centric, suburban-dominate, urbanophobic, homophobic, xenophobic... too khaki-wearing, sports hero worshipping, truck driving, and basically countrified to be considered a viable city -- a modern 21st century city. Any city whereby the population is led like lemmings down the primrose path en masse by the likes of media hacks such as Paul Finebaum and James Spann is beyond repair and groupthunk to death.

Yes indeed, Birmingham once was the "Magic City." But that was then:

when Norwood was a thriving community of decent folks and not a haven for gang-tagged crack houses;

when Ensley was a working class 'burb, not a suck-off-the-government-tit waste land;

when Highland Avenue was bustling with streetcars, movers-n-shakers, REAL artists, and actual tourists -- not the dog walking, pseudo-hipster, oxymoronic mainstream-alternative midtown drag that it is today;

when Legion Field and Rickwood housed great sporting contests out on the west side and the neighborhoods came alive on game day -- whereas today the neighborhoods rarely come alive for anything save the happenings beyond the iron fences of Birmingham-Southern or some snake handling revival behind the walls of a a crumbling besteepled house of worship;

when the city was a city... when bedroom communities were communities of homes and not isolated pods-n-garages merely sharing zip codes... when farmland was farmland -- not idyllic stretches of grass and junkyards and low-rent warehouses on the way from this up-n-coming community to that one. See Rock City! Get yer Git-R-Done T-shirts Here! Jeezus Saves!

Birmingham circa 2008 is more an amalgam of burghs and townships, of otherwise bucolic winding roads dotted with strip malls, golf courses, and SUV dealerships... with a mere semblance of a city center: sparsely populated, underwhelming in architectural stature and scale, and severely lacking in edginess, creative spunk, and of course ~ViBe~ -- Over hyah! Over hyah! In the flats! (surrounded by blighted and ghettoed warzones, by the way). The Burminham motto: Come downtown: Ain't nuttin' round hyah nowhere!

Today Ba-ba-ba-Burminham is the magic-less "Tragic City" abutted by magical hamlets featuring WASPy soccer moms and polo-shirted financiers -- none of whom ever venture inwards for anything save a court appearance or an American Idols on Tour show at the BJCC. Driving, always driving -- even when the distance is less than 0.1 miles down the street from Zoe's Kitchen to Savages Bakery. Driving down the driveway to pluck the mail out of the mailbox, I'm sure, happens more than many will admit. Gas guzzling, grocery-fetching: put those Nikes to the metal, sista! Turn up the A/C and feel the wind through yer hair! Don't forget to work out, mamma! -- Hubby gon' want that tight bod. So drive yer butt down to the yoga shop (never mind that walking there and back might would do the same trick and for free).

The Tragic City and its O-so-pristine heavenly hamlets!... and then of course there's the not-so-heavenly havens of the have-nots, read: Centerpoint, Trussville, the Dales, Calera, Alabaster, and most of Cookie Cutterville (remember, the blighted city's refugees gotta take root somewhere, and it just so happens to be on the skirts where the country-come-to-towners find their Valhalla):

We got Home Depot, Logan's Roadhouses, and goooood skools! Ha Glory! (Reality check: They can shop locally for pure crap with which to augment their otherwise dilapidated ranchers; they can eat Grade D beef -- but hey it beats Mickey D's; and the sofistikated edumacation be reel good for reinforcing the construction-based local yokel economies. The wheels on the bus go round and round...

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At least some never change:>)
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Hey guys.. I knew this was coming but didn't want to say anything until it was done. I didn't want to tell ya and then it not happen for a couple of weeks.

All of the regular posters have made this possible. Good job..
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:28 AM
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Hey guys.. I knew this was coming but didn't want to say anything until it was done. I didn't want to tell ya and then it not happen for a couple of weeks.

All of the regular posters have made this possible. Good job..

Let's see if we can get this show on the road again without getting moored in the usual XYZ-AL. I did not say anything Keeper! But do I want to!
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LOL. I know.. you did good girl..

Do you all want a chat forum.. I can make this it..
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Thanks for the Bham forum...

In response to San's rambling diatribe, I cannot tell you how many people who live in the Birmingham area who are not natives of the city who absolutely love it.

One of my co-workers grew up in Chicago and moved here from beautiful Salt Lake City. Her husband is from Michigan.

They met here after moving here while working for Bruno's. 2nd marriage for both, got married when they were 50. Nothing but praise for the community, its active art scene, fine restaurants and much to do. His son is a Culinary Institute of America-trained chef who was workin in upstate New York at a resort. Just moved down to work for Chris Hastings at the Hot and Hot Fish Club. Is thrilled to live here and finds much to do for a single 25 yo male.

These stories go on and on in my personal experience. There was an article in the paper last year about people who quit their jobs with Belk, when it bought Parisian and moved those jobs to thrilling Charlotte - just so they could stay here. Four couples were highlighted and none were Birmingham natives. One couple had extensive retailing experience as buyers and store managers respectively and to avoid leaving Birmingham - bought a dry cleaner so they could stay.....

This is an excellent place to live, to eat, to be entertained and to educate your children.
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San is a bit unhinged. And while he seems well-versed on the past, he really seems completely ignorant of what's going on right now in the market, especially given that, by any measurable standard, household incomes, household wealth, education, amenities, etc. etc. etc., are all far, far better than Birmingham has ever experienced at any time in its history. Plus, he has this weird reverse snobbery working that I really don't understand. Essentially anybody who doesn't cotton to his rarefied aesthetic ideals must be a complete buffoon. Must be a really lonely world for him. Isn't he the guy who is still upset at his rich daddy for raising him in the lap of luxury?
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OK guys and gals..

Give me an innovative name for a chat thread
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