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Old 05-10-2019, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Birmingham, AL
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Nashville population is slowing down already... Birmingham can aim more towards the type of growth of Charlotte, Richmond, Norfolk, and Raleigh.
Charlotte and Raleigh? those are poster children for growth over the past couple of decades let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Richmond maybe.
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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Charlotte and Raleigh? those are poster children for growth over the past couple of decades let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Richmond maybe.
Yeah, they are but both have been through since their respective infrastructure networks can handle it. Very similar to Birmingham which could handle more capacity.
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Old 05-10-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Yeah agree. I'm not sure where they get their yearly estimates from.

Given that this is "metro" data, I don't know of any large employment projects happening outside of Bham city that would move the needle that much. So I'm assuming this growth is primarily being seen in the city.
How about the Amazon fulfillment center in Bessemer? Don't know if those 3,000 or so jobs are included in the 8,900.
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Old 05-10-2019, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Nashville population is slowing down already... Birmingham can aim more towards the type of growth of Charlotte, Richmond, Norfolk, and Raleigh.
I don't think that is correct. What are you basing that supposition on?
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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Nashville's population is not slowing down.
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Old 05-11-2019, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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I don't think that is correct. What are you basing that supposition on?
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Nashville's population is not slowing down.
Go read the actual articles in the (Nashville) Tennessean newspaper in April. They admitted the rate of growth is slowing down.
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Old 05-11-2019, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Maybe you can provide a link to the Tennessean articles.

The same stats that showed B'ham having 8900 new jobs had Nashville with 26,000 (2.6%, I think). If that's slowing down, the growth rate must have been tremendous before that. 26,000 new jobs is pretty respectable by any standard. Even 8,900 new jobs in one year is pretty enviable ... it's a lot better than a similar-sized Oklahoma City.
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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Maybe you can provide a link to the Tennessean articles.

The same stats that showed B'ham having 8900 new jobs had Nashville with 26,000 (2.6%, I think). If that's slowing down, the growth rate must have been tremendous before that. 26,000 new jobs is pretty respectable by any standard. Even 8,900 new jobs in one year is pretty enviable ... it's a lot better than a similar-sized Oklahoma City.

I believe they may be referring to this article for population growth.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ten...amp/3498194002

Though 83 people a day for the metro is nothing to sneeze at it's not the 100 or more people a day the region was seeing this time last year. I personally tend not to put much stock in population projections cause they tend to fluctuate too often. With Amazon, Alliance Bernstein and others I expect the population numbers to uptick again this time next year.

Here's an article from September of last year that showed the census population estimates were incorrect and that the Nashville region did in fact grow at 100 people per day.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ten...amp/1265855002

Back to the topic, Birmingham has a real opportunity to capitalize on its job growth and really take off.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biz...rowth.amp.html
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Hijacking this post from the City vs City thread.. Hope that's ok. Looks like Birmingham's job growth increase is quite substantial. Any thoughts on what this might be attributed to? 8900 new jobs in one year is much better than years' past I believe.

How does this jive with population numbers though? The population numbers I've seen around in the 1-2k range. So where did 8900 jobs come from?

Also, I THINK this is net jobs. If you go to the link. This DOES include jobs lost/left as well.

Either way, looks like a positive measurable trend.

Sorry I mean JOB Growth in the 1 million+ Population Metro Areas.

March 2018-March 2019 Job Growth by Metro Area and 1-Year Growth Rate
+123,300 New York +1.3%
+110,700 Dallas +3.0%
+67,800 Houston +2.2%
+62,000 San Francisco +2.6%
+60,300 Atlanta +2.2%
+58,500 Phoenix +2.8%
+55,500 Miami +2.1%
+53,200 Seattle +2.6%
+51,900 Los Angeles +0.8%
+39,900 Chicago +0.9%

+38,400 Philadelphia +1.3%
+47,400 Orlando +3.7%
+29,600 Tampa +2.2%
+29,500 Washington DC +0.5%
+29,200 Charlotte +2.4%
+29,200 San Jose +2.6%
+28,000 Sacramento +2.8%
+26,000 Nashville +2.6%
+24,400 Las Vegas +2.4%
+22,700 Austin +2.1%

+22,100 San Antonio +2.1%
+23,300 Denver +1.6%
+21,800 Portland +1.8%
+20,600 Inland Empire +1.4%
+20,100 San Diego +1.4%
+19,900 Cincinnati +1.8%
+18,200 Baltimore +1.3%
+16,300 Columbus +1.5%
+15,200 Salt Lake City +2.1%
+14,900 Cleveland +1.4%
+12,800 Boston +0.5%

+12,300 St Louis +0.9%
+11,900 Indianapolis +1.1%
+11,600 Detroit+0.6%
+9,800 Kansas City +0.9%
+8,900 Birmingham +1.7%
+8,700 Pittsburgh +0.7%
+7,100 Memphis +1.1%
+7,100 Raleigh +1.1%
+7,000 Jacksonville +0.1%

+6,500 Oklahoma City +1.0%
+6,300 Grand Rapids +1.1%
+6,300 New Orleans +1.1%
+5,300 Louisville +0.8%
+5,200 Tucson +1.4%
+4,000 Richmond +0.6%
+3,000 Buffalo +0.5%
+2,400 Hartford +0.4%
+1,000 Milwaukee +0.1%
+600 Providence +0.1%
+100 Virginia Beach 0.0%
-100 Minneapolis 0.0%

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/metro.t03.htm
That's a good question. Decatur, for example, has the highest percentage increase in the state, yet their metro is stagnant or perhaps even slightly smaller according to population estimates. I've not heard of any major announcements for the area, but the employment numbers speak for themselves, presumably (keeping in mind that the numbers are for a one year period). Perhaps the population estimates are incorrect? I have no idea how the estimates are made (I'll guess they include number of electrical customers and the average family size from the previous census).

The numbers do indeed appear to be net.
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