Idahfornia (Boise, Paul, Council: apartment, rent, loan)

[StampinTami]

Originally Posted by shannon94

I don't mean this in a rude way...but...if you were only able to get in a home with an interest only loan...than how would you refi to a fixed NOW with no problem?

Because it has been 3 years and we have no late payments plus all of my DH's old bad credit has fallen off of his credit report. He has an excellent credit score now where as 3 years ago he did not. It's not like we are stuck in this loan or anything. Why wouldn't we be able to refi into a fixed rate?

[StampinTami]

Originally Posted by burdell

Thanks for your input. I've only read statewide figures which listed LDS as only 14% and no religious affiliation as 20%. I consider myself spiritual but not religious and would like to settle in a relatively tolerant area.

We looked in the Lewsiton area and the % of LDS in that area is very low. Actually the % of religious is also low at only 39%. The Eastern side of Idaho has a very high % of LDS in general. Good luck with finding where you want to be.

[GrittyMcDuffy]

Getting more home for your money and wide open space and natural beauty may be great for the short term. However, dig deeper and you will see that ID is not as liberal as CA is. In the long run, that may clash with the newcomers. Think taxes and cronyism.

[huntman58]

you mean there is any were in Idaho that is liberal? o man it realy is truning into calif

[izzy]

Hi,

Our family lives in the foothills of central california, about two hours from Tahoe. We are looking to relocate to the boise area. I say boise because of jobs available in my husband's field. He doesn't want to commute to far.

I have seen some houses on line that have pine trees. I am wondering. Is Bosie mostly high desert or are there some near by areas that have pine trees and foothills.

Also what are the best towns near bosie to live in. We have small kids so are also wondering what are the best school districts. We now live in a small town in the hills. I saw good prices on homes in cadwell, eagle looks interesting. What is the area like as far as landscape. How far would we have to move from boise to get in the foothills with pines.

Thanks for any help you can give us.

Izzy

[RCL]

Originally Posted by dallasfan

I can see why people are moving there, but it distresses me to see the growth and the influx of people moving in....The people who have lived there for generations, farmed the land and raised families there, can almost not afford to live there now. The local economy is growing, but at the expense of the people who made it such a great place to begin with....

People are going to live where they want to live.

Everyone thinks they are being invaded. Well, welcome to the club. We NATIVE Californians (of several generations spanning over 135 years) have been dealing with this same phenomenon for a few decades now and contrary to popular belief it's not just people from other countries who moved there, but ALSO from places like Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, the East Coast and the Midwest.

As someone posted a similar sentiment on another board -- you should be thankful that it's CALIFORNIANS who are moving in and not masses of uneducated people from under- or undeveloped countries who have nothing to bring with them but their needs.

At least when we exiled Californians show up somewhere, most of us understand how it feels for the natives, but on the other side of the coin, please don't judge us by our state of origin because we are not there to take, rather we have moved to a smaller place out of the desire to assimilate, become involved and ADD VALUE.

California is now a culture of take, take, take, and most of us have left because we don't feel that we fit into that.

Well maybe unless it's someplace like Vail, CO or Santa Fe, NM where the discussion of the day begins with "I'm richer and more successful than everyone else and I've got the goods and materialistic attitude to prove it."

Most Californians who leave California have a desire to GET AWAY FROM this superficial, materialistic kind of atmosphere (which is now rampant there), which is why we're attracted to places like Idaho, Montana, Missouri, etc. To become a part of your simpler and noble way of life, not strip it away from you.

Unfortunately, that can't be said for a lot of the people who move to California, whether they come from another state or another country. I found it interesting that most of the people I met in CA who were from the Midwest said they never wanted to go back to the Midwset. And no wonder either...because even though they extolled highly the "values" of a Midwestern upbringing, on the flip side they somehow checked most of those values at the state line.

Perhaps one thing we bring with us that some of you don't like is open-mindedness, the ability to hear/understand/welcome dissenting viewpoints, and a willingness to accept people the way they are instead of expecting everyone to be "one size/shape/mentality fits all" clones of each other?

[RCL]

Originally Posted by huntman58

you mean there is any were in Idaho that is liberal? o man it realy is truning into calif

Don't forget that people are also moving there from New York, Boston, Florida, and Washington. (And keep in mind that it was a band of "liberal radical dissidents" who founded this country when they stood up to their despot government and declared independence and self-government.)

If you don't want us Californians to move to your state(s) then pass a law against it. Otherwise, accept that growth is going to occur because we are getting forced out of our state.

Instead of complaining about it, petition your city and state leaders to start implementing smart growth measures NOW instead of waiting until sprawl has become an irreversible, ecologic/financial/physical nightmare from which there is no return.

[cleosmom]

Originally Posted by RCL

Don't forget that people are also moving there from New York, Boston, Florida, and Washington. (And keep in mind that it was a band of "liberal radical dissidents" who founded this country when they stood up to their despot government and declared independence and self-government.)

If you don't want us Californians to move to your state(s) then pass a law against it. Otherwise, accept that growth is going to occur because we are getting forced out of our state.

Instead of complaining about it, petition your city and state leaders to start implementing smart growth measures NOW instead of waiting until sprawl has become an irreversible, ecologic/financial/physical nightmare from which there is no return.

That was interesting as Huntman58 is from CA

I agree with you RCL, we're a mass of nomads in this country and always will be.

[pinkpalace]

I think it's rather silly that people sit and complain about "outsiders" coming in and changing everything -- as if there was some sort of conspiracy in California saying: "hey! Idaho is messed up! Let's all move there and change everything!"

Nobody does that.

People move to a different area because they think their life will be better. They don't move there just so they can change things.

I think people just like to complain. If they weren't complaining about people from California, they'd be complaining about someone else comin' in and changing things.

Californians get the blame because (like RCL said) California is out of control, and normal, sensible Californians are trying to escape. Heck, if I lived in California, I'd be doing the same thing!!

Growth is a sign of prosperity. Growth needs to be managed, of course, but you aren't going to have growth w/o a certain amount of change.

[StampinTami]

Originally Posted by RCL

People are going to live where they want to live.

Everyone thinks they are being invaded. Well, welcome to the club. We NATIVE Californians (of several generations spanning over 135 years) have been dealing with this same phenomenon for a few decades now and contrary to popular belief it's not just people from other countries who moved there, but ALSO from places like Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, the East Coast and the Midwest.

As someone posted a similar sentiment on another board -- you should be thankful that it's CALIFORNIANS who are moving in and not masses of uneducated people from under- or undeveloped countries who have nothing to bring with them but their needs.

At least when we exiled Californians show up somewhere, most of us understand how it feels for the natives, but on the other side of the coin, please don't judge us by our state of origin because we are not there to take, rather we have moved to a smaller place out of the desire to assimilate, become involved and ADD VALUE.

California is now a culture of take, take, take, and most of us have left because we don't feel that we fit into that.

Most Californians who leave California have a desire to GET AWAY FROM this superficial, materialistic kind of atmosphere (which is now rampant there), which is why we're attracted to places like Idaho, Montana, Missouri, etc. To become a part of your simpler and noble way of life, not strip it away from you.

Here, here! I know all to well what a lot of the people on here from Idaho are saying. I was born and raised here in Central Ca but spent a year and a half in San Diego. We were a few smaller towns with lots of farm land surrounding us. We lived in the city but on a .25 acre lot. My grandparents lived in the country on 10 acres and I was there as much as I possibly could be!

In the late 90's we started having a major influx of people from the bay area. We were saying all the stuff about them that I keep reading on here about Californians. I moved to SD in 2000 to be with my DH while he finished his tour in the USMC. The cost of houses more than doubled in the year and a half that I was in San Diego. My DH and I dreamed of coming back home, buying some land and putting a house on it for our family. Our dream was crushed because there was no where that my DH could work that was anywhere close to land we could afford. Our house prices have more than doubled again since then. We settled on a .14 acre lot with our 1400 sq. ft. house. We have neighbors right up against us, but not near as bad as if we would have bought a brand new home.

I was against moving out of Ca only because of my family. We had been looking at different states to move to but just looking. I ruled out all of them and said maybe about ID...not actually planning on ever agreeing to it. I had a convention to go to in Utah so we took a side trip up through Twin Falls over to Pokie and up to IF and then down to Utah. I fell in love with IF!

I can't stand much about California. We don't agree on the politics and we are tired of the growth. The gangs are out of control! I want somewhere safe for my kids to grow up and I want them to have room to roam like I did on my grandparents farm. I have now learned that yes family is important but I have my own family to be worried about. We are not looking to move somewhere and build it up like Ca and we are not looking to have it be anything like Ca! We do plan to get involved in local politics, esp. about growth issues. If we liked Ca, we would stay here!