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Old 09-17-2018, 05:12 PM
 
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Indeed all I'd love to see thwarted is the Kalifornication of Boise. No issues with it being a stable environment hopefully reasonably free of gangs and crime. But most likely IF it were to continue on the course it seems to be headed for it will end up another Salt Lake (Home and hub of the Seneloa Cartel, may that not happen for the sake of those living in Boise). Oh well......time will indeed tell.
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:12 AM
 
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I still like the Boise area and I'll enjoy it for years to come. But it can be "progressive" without emulating Portland or SF. What a bore to copy those cities and turn it into another political headache. THAT should be a measurement for these quality of life survey's.

One of the major aspects of the Boise area I enjoy is the low crime. I really hope we don't need to go through a political identity crisis for the sake of it and invite the chaos that comes with it.
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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Indeed all I'd love to see thwarted is the Kalifornication of Boise. No issues with it being a stable environment hopefully reasonably free of gangs and crime. But most likely IF it were to continue on the course it seems to be headed for it will end up another Salt Lake (Home and hub of the Seneloa Cartel, may that not happen for the sake of those living in Boise). Oh well......time will indeed tell.
That "K" you fear is happening all over Idaho including the Magic Valley where you reside. Have you seen the growth in Idaho Falls and Pocatello and Twin Falls the past few years? Growth is not always a bad thing and for good or bad, Idaho and Boise are among the fastest growing states and cities in the nation. Grab the handle bars and enjoy the ride.

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Seattleites flock to Boise
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:53 PM
 
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Indeed all I'd love to see thwarted is the Kalifornication of Boise. No issues with it being a stable environment hopefully reasonably free of gangs and crime. But most likely IF it were to continue on the course it seems to be headed for it will end up another Salt Lake (Home and hub of the Seneloa Cartel, may that not happen for the sake of those living in Boise). Oh well......time will indeed tell.

Stay north towards Bonner's Ferry ...
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:16 PM
 
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The growth hasn't been so bad in Magic Valley by comparison. At least all the folks I've met so far for the most part (either from Cali or not) are by no means leftists, so I'm fine with it thus far. Certainly in the town I'm in it's solid conservative and the people are all like family. A real nice change from Utah to say the least.
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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The growth hasn't been so bad in Magic Valley by comparison. At least all the folks I've met so far for the most part (either from Cali or not) are by no means leftists, so I'm fine with it thus far. Certainly in the town I'm in it's solid conservative and the people are all like family. A real nice change from Utah to say the least.

Everyone seems to be afraid that Boise area is going to become liberal or California runned or that they may bring their politics to Boise to change the whole state of Idaho into a leftist place.
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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Everyone seems to be afraid that Boise area is going to become liberal or California runned or that they may bring their politics to Boise to change the whole state of Idaho into a leftist place.
It's a legitimate fear. There's plenty of precedent.

I just want to ask: Why can't Boise be "progressive" without the raving lunatic activism? Maybe that's what a lot of folks are fighting to keep out. Otherwise, moderates/conservatives embrace "progressive" as well. At the end of the day I would think the majority of those on the left AND right would agree this crap isn't constructive. It's so sickening and exhausting to watch this new breed of activism AND, of course our favorite, identity politics, taking center stage.

Time out for cheese: Let's make Boise the kind of place where rationality reigns supreme and we aren't caught up in our selfish, insecure notions of identity politics. Damn.. let's just work, play and kindly open the door for each other
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Old 09-19-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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It's a legitimate fear. There's plenty of precedent.

I just want to ask: Why can't Boise be "progressive" without the raving lunatic activism? Maybe that's what a lot of folks are fighting to keep out. Otherwise, moderates/conservatives embrace "progressive" as well. At the end of the day I would think the majority of those on the left AND right would agree this crap isn't constructive. It's so sickening and exhausting to watch this new breed of activism AND, of course our favorite, identity politics, taking center stage.

Time out for cheese: Let's make Boise the kind of place where rationality reigns supreme and we aren't caught up in our selfish, insecure notions of identity politics. Damn.. let's just work, play and kindly open the door for each other

Precedents like Oregon, Washington?
I hope people don't go into Boise with the idea of bring all of their ideas and trying to change a good thing into a bad thing.
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:00 PM
 
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It's a legitimate fear. There's plenty of precedent.

I just want to ask: Why can't Boise be "progressive" without the raving lunatic activism? Maybe that's what a lot of folks are fighting to keep out. Otherwise, moderates/conservatives embrace "progressive" as well. At the end of the day I would think the majority of those on the left AND right would agree this crap isn't constructive. It's so sickening and exhausting to watch this new breed of activism AND, of course our favorite, identity politics, taking center stage.

Time out for cheese: Let's make Boise the kind of place where rationality reigns supreme and we aren't caught up in our selfish, insecure notions of identity politics. Damn.. let's just work, play and kindly open the door for each other
You're making far too much sense, and not enough "the sky is falling" for nowhereman's liking.
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:09 PM
 
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You're making far too much sense, and not enough "the sky is falling" for nowhereman's liking.
Well, maybe I'm unrealistically optimistic, but since Boise hasn't gotten there yet there's still a chance. Having a population that all thinks the same doesn't really work. I absolutely embrace different views and lifestyles, but when they're kept to that individual and not put on show or forced on others. I don't mean clothing or body art. I'm referring more to the politics and mob mentality. It'll be interesting to see if the Boise metro handles it differently from the "edgy" cities. Maybe the outdoor culture of Idaho has an affect. Maybe it keeps the people grounded to a degree. Even Colorado so far has hung on to a somewhat moderate/independent culture... considering.
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