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Old 11-24-2008, 10:58 PM
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Default Drivers test

I am planning on taking my drivers skills test for the first time. I am 26 but never got my license in any of the states that I have lived in.

I am doing really well. Yesterday I drove all way up to Idaho City. That was the most I have ever driven before and it was the most challenging because of the curvy roads.

Now I have to practice more parallel parking. This is something that I dread and makes me nervous that I am going to fail my test because of stupid parallel parking.

What streets would be perfect streets to practice parallel parking on?

Does anyone know of a good skills tester that I should make my appointment with?

Does anyone know what the route is for the drivers test? Everyone that I have talked to has said that its around the Glenwood and Chinden area. I am not sure if it has changed or not.

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Old 11-27-2008, 01:01 PM
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What streets would be perfect streets to practice parallel parking on?
Any street without other cars on it. Seriously, would you want someone learning/practicing to park around your car? Unless Idaho is different from other states they'll use cones to simulate cars for you to park between, you should get cones or maybe use empty (plastic) garbage cans, and practice parallel parking between them.

Good luck on the test, remember to absolutely follow every traffic law - any infraction, speeding by a tiny bit, rolling through a stop sign, etc - will likely be an instant fail.
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You've got the right idea. Parallel parking just takes practice. Another tough issue it provides is that it works differently with power steering cars. Practice with a car that does not have power steering in order to prepare yourself for the cars that testers use. My parents had an '89 Jeep Cherokee that was a breeze to parallel park, so I got a nasty surprise when I over-confidently tried to parallel park in driver's ed.

Maybe they'll let you drive your own car during testing. As a native, I took driver's ed at 15 and passed with good marks (since rural driving gave me plenty of underage practice), so I never took that assessment drive (or whatever it's called) at the DMV.

Since you probably haven't needed driver's ed at your age (I forget the laws, but I think 18+ could just do the test), you should know a fairly dependable general rule they teach you. If you mess up while following this rule, an instructor will understand that you know what you're doing but may just need a little patience for adjustment to the different car.

First and foremost, you want a good side-to-side proximity with the front car when you initially line up. This will make or break your park, and unfortunately is only attainable from practice specific to whatever car your driving and how that car steers. There is a generally reasonable distance, though, but I've never heard a good standard rule for judging that distance. If someone else could provide that, I'd share in your curiosity.

Next, as an aside, your right door mirror is one of your best friends. Use it properly and you'll see why the average driver's "guesswork" isn't a problem for truckers (and you'll wish you had one of their mirrors). Objects may be "closer than they appear", but whether or not they're about to touch side-to-side is clear and accurate as can be. This is very helpful in the initial part of the backup, as well as when lining your back tire to the curb in an extra long or short car (that's only if you can see the curb easily in the mirror... the person testing you won't appreciate a mirror adjustment or strained pause mid-park, even though that would be ideal for the curb). In any case, you can use the right side of the bumper of the front car to gauge the point at which your back tire should be straightened out.

Now, as you're backing up, you want to crank the wheel for a hard right until backing up puts your right mirror in line with the front car's back bumper (or cone). This is the point where you crank the wheel to your left and briefly watch your front right corner to ensure it's easing in properly (for this reason, of course, the mirror line-up rule has to be intuitively modified for longer cars or when you're too far/close with side of the front car). Finally, once you straighten out, it goes without saying that you want to not hit the back car/cone.

Ultimately, if the instructor sees you're judging initial side-to-side proximity reasonably (not too close or too far in any obvious way), focusing on the necessary potential points of impact, and following the general mirror line-up rule, you'll get the benefit of patience for any unusual aspects of your testing car's build or steering.

Sorry if I sound like a know-it-all. Parallel parking is very intimidating to the inexperienced driver, but once you do it and think through each different moment, and even more so once you've driven a large truck or with a trailer, the whole thing just turns into knowing where to keep your attention and when to change that focus, and from there experience just leads it to become second nature. Really, you can't see the front corners, grill, and tires of your car, but you can guess when they're nearing impact. In reverse, you even have your side mirrors on your side (yay... a pun!). Reverse is just more intimidating due to instincts and lack of practice.

And once again on that note, you've got the right idea with practicing.

Best of hopes.

Last edited by stingraynm; 12-01-2008 at 08:28 PM.. Reason: added initial note about side-to-side distance, as that is important... hopefully someone can supplement with a guideline.
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I learned to parallel park in Downtown Boise. The students, including myself, did fine. The old lady trying to park her Cadillac across the street from us didn't do so well as she damaged both the car in front of her and behind her.

I really didn't learn to parallel park till I had friends in the beach communities of Los Angeles.
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Thanks for all the info

You actually use your own car. I went through driving school in 2003 in another state but never went through with the test.
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Thanks for all the info

You actually use your own car. I went through driving school in 2003 in another state but never went through with the test.
Nice. That should make it a lot easier then. And truly, as for all skills, with practice it will become second nature.
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if you see a black Volvo with Iowa plates try to not run into me. Kthxbye.


That goes for the rest of you too...
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Don't worry, I only run into teens who opt to dart in front of me with no blinker.
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Don't worry, I only run into teens who opt to dart in front of me with no blinker.
fair enough, people who don't use their blinkers deserve whats coming to them. Oh and try to stay out of the left lane on 84, remember everyone "Slower traffic keep right" and "Keep right except to pass"

For some reason everyone out west doesn't understand these very simple concepts. People in the midwest know to stay out of the fast lane, its like western drivers education classes never taught this principle. Boggles the mind.
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fair enough, people who don't use their blinkers deserve whats coming to them. Oh and try to stay out of the left lane on 84, remember everyone "Slower traffic keep right" and "Keep right except to pass"

For some reason everyone out west doesn't understand these very simple concepts. People in the midwest know to stay out of the fast lane, its like western drivers education classes never taught this principle. Boggles the mind.
Oh man, if you think Idaho is bad, try New Mexico. Every day I have to contend with several people who don't signal when they switch lanes (on a multi-lane road!) and people who go slow in the left lane, driving with almost intentional perfection to go the exact same speed as the cars to the right of them. Next thing I know, I've got a row of a dozen tailgaters behind me, waiting like a sequence of dominos next to a time bomb.

And the lane changers really expect you to read their minds or something. Not even THE COPS signal here! It's absolutely ridiculous.

Finally, when a wreck happens, they don't clear it from the road. Roads have literally been CLOSED due to wrecks! And you're lucky if an officer decides to meander down the line of traffic to tell everyone why they aren't moving and... oh, happen to be BLOCKING the ambulance and/or other follow-up responders.

The whole mentality is too volatile. I was not a road rager until I moved here. Here, the courteous drivers become the ragers because most people are just oblivious or selectively legalistic (i.e., pr**ks). You can hardly do favors without regretting it almost immediately.

So... Idaho is some of the best in the West. Oregon is awesome. For all Portland's crazy road design, the driver's there are refreshingly civil for such a large, confusing infrastructure. Denver and Colorado Springs have awful traffic and infrastructure. Ogden and SLC, same problem and narrow lanes in some areas. And I won't even mention California, although one thing they do have going for them is an Eastern-style "fast lane".

Take a road trip to the Southwest. You'll forever appreciate Idaho drivers for at least being courteous more than 50% of the time.

Here's a "fun" thread to which I contributed in Albuquerque. There were several sensible souls on there and we had good chats, but the pinheads on both the "I'll do what I want!" and "It's only dangerous if it's illegal" extremist fronts definitely contributed their 2 cents (and not worth much more... you'll see).

http://www.city-data.com/forum/albuq...s-drivers.html
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