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11-04-2009, 09:44 AM
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Where is North End ??
Sting...can you tell me, in relation to your discussion above, what boundaries are considered the "North End?" Can you help me on that one?
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11-04-2009, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by baseball6
Sting...can you tell me, in relation to your discussion above, what boundaries are considered the "North End?" Can you help me on that one?
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The area where you would find the most frequency of hip/quaint/historical culture/motif would probably be around Harrison Blvd. as a Western boundary, North of State St., South of Hill Rd. and around Camel's Back Park/Hyde Park area, and West of where Fort St. meets State St. There is some nice historic runoff into a more urban Downtown motif South of State St. (mostly old apartments and hotels) and similar neighborhoods all the way out West to a debateable boundary, so I'm mostly just taking my best shot at what would be fairly categorized "in relation to (my) discussion above". Think of Hyde Park/Boise Co-op as central to all of this "scene" and Harrison Blvd./Fort Boise as colloquially definitive portions, in a way.
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11-04-2009, 01:11 PM
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You say "liberal" like it's a bad thing
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boise is a great area, city is moderate democratic with more liberal enclaves like the northend, warm springs and bench areas. historic homes, mature trees, green paths parks, art gallaries, wine shops If you get out into suburban boise you'll find a much different atmosphere strip malls, cookie cutter houses and block neighborhoods with catch phrase names and fake waterfalls out the front.
The greater treasure valley really has options for anyone really. Idaho is Conservative, but more libertarian conservative, and boise proper is more of a center-left demographic. Young singles and double income no kids (DINKS) make up boise. Boise School District is not even the largest school district in the state, even though it is more than twice the size of the next closes city in population. This is a telling sign in demographics.. Families with kids are in Meridian westward.. and the school districts out there are reflective of that.
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11-04-2009, 02:26 PM
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I'm afraid it's the old "good news, bad news" deal for ya. First, the good; as far as you and your better half being a couple of liberal, non-secular 20-somethings, you'll fit right in. Fifteen or twenty years ago, that may nothave been the case, since Idaho is and has always been uber-conservative. Like most University towns, however, Boise has for some time now been sort of a bastion of liberalness (is that a word? lol). At least as far as Idaho is concerned. We've had a crazy-huge influx of Californians here since the early 1990's and that has greatly fomented that zeitgeist.
Too, I see you're currently living in Tallahassee, so if you probably know what I'm talking about when it comes to a Blue town in a Red state!
And I reckon you'd love our four season here, as opposed to the humid tropics of Florida. (I played minor league baseball in the mid-80's in Jupiter City so I'm familar with the swelter, baby!) It gets damn hot here in the summer, but at least our humidity doesn't hover around 80% like in FLA.
Now the bad news: [MOD CUT] Well our state, city and county governments have been slashing spending and budgets and even laying people off. Our neighboring town of Eagle even cut back on its police force!
So as much as we'd like to have you, if employment is a big part of your criteria for selecting a relocation spot, I'm afraid The City of Trees may not be the best decision at this juncture.
Last edited by Sage of Sagle; 11-05-2009 at 04:04 PM..
Reason: Inaccurate info removed.
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11-04-2009, 03:07 PM
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All NIMBY's, move to Greenleaf
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Originally Posted by boiseguy
boise is a great area, city is moderate democratic with more liberal enclaves like the northend, warm springs and bench areas. historic homes, mature trees, green paths parks, art gallaries, wine shops If you get out into suburban boise you'll find a much different atmosphere strip malls, cookie cutter houses and block neighborhoods with catch phrase names and fake waterfalls out the front.
The greater treasure valley really has options for anyone really. Idaho is Conservative, but more libertarian conservative, and boise proper is more of a center-left demographic. Young singles and double income no kids (DINKS) make up boise. Boise School District is not even the largest school district in the state, even though it is more than twice the size of the next closes city in population. This is a telling sign in demographics.. Families with kids are in Meridian westward.. and the school districts out there are reflective of that.
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Great explanation Boiseguy.
Also to respond to another post regarding a bad economy: Wake Up, the bad economy is everywhere not just in Boise. And there are jobs here otherwise I would not be employed and people would not be currently relocating here to Boise to work for the company I work for which is growing 
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11-04-2009, 11:21 PM
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. The recent recession has slammed us extra-hard; our unemployment rate is well above the national percentage
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It is? Not according to the Idaho Department of Labor.
"Idaho employers remained cautious about the economy in September, but the state’s seasonally adjusted unemployment rate dropped a tenth of a point to 8.8 percent."
"Nationally, the unemployment rate went in the other direction, rising a tenth of a percentage point to 9.8 percent."
Idaho Department of Labor News > Press Releases
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11-05-2009, 08:47 AM
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Exposing Pro Growth Myths and Lies
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Originally Posted by Syringaloid
Great explanation Boiseguy.
Also to respond to another post regarding a bad economy: Wake Up, the bad economy is everywhere not just in Boise. And there are jobs here otherwise I would not be employed and people would not be currently relocating here to Boise to work for the company I work for which is growing 
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What does everywhere else have to do with Boise if someone can't find a job here? This is always brought up as if it were somehow indicative of the situation in Boise.
Yeah, things are bad everywhere else and Boise is not exceptional. WE ALL GET THAT. [MOD CUT]
NO ONE is saying don't give it a try. I encourage everyone to toss out as many applications as possible if they want to move out here. Heck, even come out and stay for a month and try and find that job. BUT, and this is the important point, know full well that most common jobs are extremely competitive, if openings exist at all.
It's great you (and I and others) have a job currently. And if your company is growing than maybe you can send these people a DM and let them know and maybe hook them up with a job. The reality is, however, that your company is but one of a few that actually is growing and hiring. Most are stagnant, at best, or downsizing.
People should just be aware of that before jumping into a relocation, because that's the most important issue here in the Valley.
Last edited by Sage of Sagle; 11-05-2009 at 04:00 PM..
Reason: Avoid personal attacks
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11-05-2009, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Torrie
It is? Not according to the Idaho Department of Labor.
"Idaho employers remained cautious about the economy in September, but the state’s seasonally adjusted unemployment rate dropped a tenth of a point to 8.8 percent."
"Nationally, the unemployment rate went in the other direction, rising a tenth of a percentage point to 9.8 percent."
Idaho Department of Labor News > Press Releases
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From this very press release you just linked us, the Boise MSA is holding at 9.6, which is three-tenths of a percent better than this time last year when we were at 9.9.
Interestingly, if you look at all the other listed cities/regions, they hover around that number, with Hailey near 10 and CdA above 10.
However, towns in Southern Idaho drop Idaho's figure because they're around 6 percent, while Eastern Idaho (Rexburg especially) is around 5.
Think about that for a second: Boise almost has double the unemployment rate as Rexburg, and it's almost a third higher than Idaho Falls.
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11-05-2009, 10:10 AM
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You say "liberal" like it's a bad thing
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Originally Posted by boisefan88
What does everywhere else have to do with Boise if someone can't find a job here? This is always brought up as if it were somehow indicative of the situation in Boise.
Yeah, things are bad everywhere else and Boise is not exceptional. WE ALL GET THAT. [MOD CUT]
NO ONE is saying don't give it a try. I encourage everyone to toss out as many applications as possible if they want to move out here. Heck, even come out and stay for a month and try and find that job. BUT, and this is the important point, know full well that most common jobs are extremely competitive, if openings exist at all.
It's great you (and I and others) have a job currently. And if your company is growing than maybe you can send these people a DM and let them know and maybe hook them up with a job. The reality is, however, that your company is but one of a few that actually is growing and hiring. Most are stagnant, at best, or downsizing.
People should just be aware of that before jumping into a relocation, because that's the most important issue here in the Valley.
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what people are saying is that it is a scary time to be moving ANYWHERE WE KNOW THAT.. but if your situation where you're at is terrible and you are looking to move.. there are a hell of a lot worse places job wise and economy wise than boise...
Finding a Job in boise is difficult depending on what industry you're in...
There are jobs out there..believe me.. I just picked up a second job back in September to pay down debt...
If I can do it.. these newcomers can do it too..
Its not all doom and gloom
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11-05-2009, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by boisefan88
What does everywhere else have to do with Boise if someone can't find a job here? This is always brought up as if it were somehow indicative of the situation in Boise.
Yeah, things are bad everywhere else and Boise is not exceptional. WE ALL GET THAT. [MOD CUT]
NO ONE is saying don't give it a try. I encourage everyone to toss out as many applications as possible if they want to move out here. Heck, even come out and stay for a month and try and find that job. BUT, and this is the important point, know full well that most common jobs are extremely competitive, if openings exist at all.
It's great you (and I and others) have a job currently. And if your company is growing than maybe you can send these people a DM and let them know and maybe hook them up with a job. The reality is, however, that your company is but one of a few that actually is growing and hiring. Most are stagnant, at best, or downsizing.
People should just be aware of that before jumping into a relocation, because that's the most important issue here in the Valley.
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Good post, boisefan.
Last edited by Sage of Sagle; 11-05-2009 at 04:01 PM..
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