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Old 07-20-2010, 11:47 PM
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I am potentially looking at having to take the 19 bus from Kenmore Station down to the Grove Hall area for work. I saw an article online from a few years ago about a guy getting shot in the head on the 23 bus, which serves many of the same areas as the 19. So I guess the basic question is, is it safe to take the 19?
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:28 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much about the bus. I've never been on the 19, but I've never had trouble on the bus. Mostly I find the bus is either filled with yuppies, high school students, or older lower-class folks. If you trust the area you're going to, I would trust the bus route. However, I believe Grove Hall area is Orange-Lineish (I might be wrong about that), and the orange line tends to have some iffy characters on it. Still, I wouldn't be worried. Especially since the incident you're talking about was probably premeditated.
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:31 PM
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I guess that would be my main issue: I don't trust the area i'm going to at all. I'm new to the area, but from everything i've heard/read, the Grove Hall area is about as bad as it gets in terms of crime in the Boston area.
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Old 07-22-2010, 05:47 PM
Location: Cambridge, MA
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The issue really isn't the safety of the bus ride itself, it's how far the stop would be from your work place and what times you'd be using it. I've traveled all over town (literally) on the MBTA and never run into trouble. Most of the crimes you hear about occur near rapid-transit stations or bus stops at night, when passengers departing onto deserted streets make for easy prey. A good many buses now have security cameras installed, as do all the subway stations. So there's been a reduction in what little bad stuff does happen on the T.
Once you become a familiar presence in the neighborhood, you should be left alone. Co-workers would recognize any security risk entailed in standing at a bus stop and would probably be willing to walk you there and perhaps even wait with you.
Grove Hall is now actually undergoing a fitful revival after decades of decay, with the worst areas now lying to the east (Four Corners and Bowdoin/Geneva in Dorchester.)
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:08 PM
Location: Boston, MA
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I used to ride the 23 every day from Ashmont Station to get to both my high school in the Longwood Area and college (Northeastern University). I rode it at all times of the day. I have also ridden the 19 several times and have gotten off at Grove Hall several times. I have always felt safe riding those routes and many times I'm the only non-African American on the bus! As long as you keep to yourself, mind your own business, and don't get into any arguments or commotions, you will be fine. It's people that don't know how to shut up on the bus that get into trouble. I remember that incident you mentioned about the guy getting shot on the 23, it was a youngster who apparently had beef with someone at school or somewhere and was personally targeted. No one is that insane as to randomly shoot people on a public bus and even such a targeted shooting is a rare occurrence. I assume you will be traveling during rush hour, correct? You will probably be more bothered with crowded buses and heavy traffic on those routes during rush hour than anything else.
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