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Old 05-01-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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Boston Magazine's take on solving Boston's traffic woes.

Boston Traffic Sucks
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Old 05-01-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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The issue is affordability. We aren't building enough housing inside of 495. Therefore many people will commute long distances from places like NH to get to their job. Build more housing and not as many people will do that.

And from experience Boston traffic isn't any worse then other cities of it's size in the United States.
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Old 05-01-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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The article covered the only possible solution. Upgrade rail and bus corridor infrastructure. Make the public transportation commute as quick & easy as possible even if it makes the experience for that 1 person automobile horrific. For example, make the SE Expressway zipper lane bus & van pool-only and have a bus/van-pool-only left lane for the couple miles between South Station and the zipper lane. Same thing on the Mass Pike. Left lane for bus/van-pools at rush hour. Ditto I-93N and Route 1. You also need to be able to do a 128 commute by bus to get people out of their cars. You can't just have a hub system where you can only get to South Station, North Station, and Back Bay. Beyond that, a huge upgrade in rail and subway infrastructure. The 1 hour commuter rail service needs to be 30 minutes and the rail lines extended farther outwards to where the affordable real estate is. That also serves as an economic shot in the arm to a lot of failed mill cities.
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:26 PM
 
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^Agreed. What we need is more transit orientated development. The state should reform the 40B law to encourage development next to commuter rail stations or bus routes. Most 40B developments today are built next to highways, which keeps traffic off of local streets but clogs the major arteries up.
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Old 05-02-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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All commuter rail should be upgraded to electric/high speed in the equivalent of the MARC DC to Baltimore. For the Providence line especially, this should have happened 15 years ago and for very low cost.
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:35 PM
 
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Electrification would be very good. Self propelled electric cars work quickly and efficiently, as on Riverside, which is just a converted commuter rail line. Prov is already electrified I believe but the T service on that line doesn't take advantage of it, still using diesel locomotives. I wish Trumps infrastructure agenda included projects like this. If MA ever commits to the North Station - South Station connector the lines using it would need to be electrified.
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Old 05-03-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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And I thought the $20+ billion big dig solved all the traffic problems.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:46 PM
 
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Home school the snowflakes. No more busses, no more localized traffic. Don't believe me? How much easier is the commute during school vacation weeks and in the summer?
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Old 05-03-2017, 11:48 PM
 
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And I thought the $20+ billion big dig solved all the traffic problems.
If the NSRL was completed it might have helped.

The Big Dig was a waste of money (from a traffic standpoint, from a city standpoint it tore down a scar between downtown and the north end/waterfront), experience has shown that expanding highway infrastructure does not help reduce traffic.
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:04 AM
 
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The Big Dig was a waste of money (from a traffic standpoint, from a city standpoint it tore down a scar between downtown and the north end/waterfront), experience has shown that expanding highway infrastructure does not help reduce traffic.
It definitely helped traffic flow from the south in the years following, anyone saying otherwise was either not there or they have no idea what they are talking about. It has picked up since then, but there are a lot more vehicles on the road now than back then. The area has grown. I think everyone agrees the Big Dig was a disaster, but I still can't imagine how much worse traffic would be today had it not been done. Now had it been done properly, things would be better today.

The whole "if we don't build it they won't come" myth (rooted in a flawed study that is half a century old), has been debunked. As demand and population expand, so must the infrastructure. The latter is almost always at least a step behind, so it does seem like it doesn't help with the traffic. People fail to realize how much worse it would be otherwise.
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