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Old 09-12-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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The Irish of Boston are the salt of the earth. The Blacks slash Hispanics are its Sugar. Oops. Can I say that?

Whatever happened to the Plymouth Rockers, their descendants? We hardly ever mention them except for the old wax of Puritanism that seeps through.
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Old 09-12-2017, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Boston
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The black population in Suffolk County leaped from 21.6% in 2010 to 25% in 2016. That is a massive jump. Any one know the reason for this? Immigrants from Africa & Caribbean?

Meanwhile in that time period the Non-hispanic white population shrunk from 48.1% to 45.8% (as it is doing everywhere in America). Hispanics rose from 19.9% to 22.5% and Asians from 8.2% to 8.9%.

A lot of people that have never been to the Boston area have this totally outdated misconception from the media, hollywood or whatever that Boston is this preppy white or Irish-American city. Hasn't been that for a loooooong time. It's becoming a black/hispanic city (57.5%) very quickly.
I think Black-Non Hispanic non multi race has only gone up slightly from 22.4% to 23.0%. The 2016 Demographic estimates come out Thursday. Hispanic are about 20.0% in Boston. About half of the multiracial people in Boston are mixed with African American. So thats the 25% people reference

Its really 43% Black non-hispanic non-mixed lack plus Hispanic. It is 44.6% White down from 47.0 in 2010. If you include the mixed black population it become about 45% black and hispanic and com

The reason being the whites who move to the Boston area AND stay long enough to be counted in a Census usually look first to Cambridge Brookline and Somerville first.

Then they look into Southie and JP but those areas are so expensive and only so many people can move there. That being said I do not think the pace of improvement of the Boston Public Schools is keeping up with demand from wealthier whiter parents so they are still moving out when their kids become school age. Also Boston is not a kid-friendly city and most people given the choice wouldn't raise their kids there due to high costs, congestion, mediocre schools, or fairly prevalent crime in the outer neighborhoods.

They are slow to move in to HP, East Boston, Roslindale, Mattapan, Roxbury, and Dorchester. Even when they move into Rozzy, East Boston and Dorchester, which they most certainly do, the rate in which the traditional Irish working class has been pushed out and is dying off is still faster. Roxbury having lacked any of that older white ethnic population is becoming whiter. This is what you see in DC. A rising white population due to a lack of an ingrained ethnic white population. Boston's white population was so high compared to other 50% compared to an East Coast average of about 35%-that it kind of has to go down. It's sort of playing cultural and demographic catch up.

Blacks and Hispanics are less willing to move out of the city because there are fewer cultural options/amenities in the other towns outside of Boston.. Its easy to be white and move anywhere.

The booming economy in the region requires a large service employment population which is mostly Black and Hispanic. Furthermore MA CT RI NJ lose whites as a share of the population faster than most states due to higher level of immigration, and an older white population than the rest of the country.

But compared to other cheaper metro Boston cities and towns Everett, Randolph, Brockton, Stoughton, Lynn, Malden, Salem, Avon, and Chelsea and even the larger cities in the state Worcester (68% white in 2000 to 56% in 2015), Lowell (as of 2015 majority minority) and especially Springfield (47% white in 2000 to 31% today)... Boston diversifies at a snails pace and Cambridge is so expensive it is stagnate in its diversity at about 63% white.. Somerville has even become whiter since 2000 from 72% to 77%.
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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Blacks and Hispanics are less willing to move out of the city because there are fewer cultural options/amenities in the other towns outside of Boston.. Its easy to be white and move anywhere.
That's certainly true. And the hesitancy to move from Boston isn't only fear of the whitebread world beyond for Blacks and Hispanics, or the attractiveness of suburbs for whites. Many people like living in their various Boston neighborhoods-- loyalty to the place, family ties, comfortable in their own (community) skin. We think of young white professionals as choosing the city (and Cambridge, Brookline, Somerville, etc.) but plenty of old timers and working class and other whites do too, by choosing to stay. For Blacks and Hispanics too, people have all sorts of social and cultural ties to their communities that keep them wanting to stay and make things better.

Even so, whites can go almost anywhere without fear of stares and snubs-- or a rock through the window.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Boston
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That's certainly true. And the hesitancy to move from Boston isn't only fear of the whitebread world beyond for Blacks and Hispanics, or the attractiveness of suburbs for whites. Many people like living in their various Boston neighborhoods-- loyalty to the place, family ties, comfortable in their own (community) skin. We think of young white professionals as choosing the city (and Cambridge, Brookline, Somerville, etc.) but plenty of old timers and working class and other whites do too, by choosing to stay. For Blacks and Hispanics too, people have all sorts of social and cultural ties to their communities that keep them wanting to stay and make things better.

Even so, whites can go almost anywhere without fear of stares and snubs-- or a rock through the window.
This is true. But I have anecdotally noticed they are not as well versed in being the 'other' and do not know how to navigate housing assistance and other social welfare programs that would allows them to stay in the city as well as Blacks and Hispanics who have been other for quite some time now, and in Boston now really do dominate the social wellness, and non profit community based organizations and help groups. Not to mention other city jobs like the MBTA or working rec centers and YMCAs and so on. Those jobs tend to be filled by minorities and put you in a position where you're surrounded by help in the city or where your spot in the city is protected. Larger extended families and more young relatives in the family also helps to make sure they have a place to stay in the city. Compared to older middle of the road whites with smaller families. Or maybe their kids have less of a connection to the city.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Boston
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The answer to this thread: Because it wants to be.

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston...low%3Afacebook

BUT it could be far left people. Not sure-interesting sign though well see how this unfold *no pun intended*.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:48 PM
 
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BUT it could be far left people.
Most likely, and probably out-of-towners too.


I'm sure the Globe, NYT, etc. will waste no time labeling them as "right wing" fascists, before any facts can get in their way though.
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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There's a reason why the Boston Celtics were known consistently for years and years as the whitest team in the NBA.
While the Bird and McHale era may have given that false impression, that's more associated with the Red Sox
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:36 PM
 
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Bostonborn again quick to jump on the Boston is racist train when those people holding that sign were doing so to raise awareness and support the black lives matter movement but please be quick to judge. While in Detroit a fan calls two black men sitting during the national anthem the n word and has tickets revoked. Oh Detroit that racist city.
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Old 09-16-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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I'm not sure how anyone could think boston is becoming a black/hispanic city quickly...are you serious?? Boston is gentrifying quickly and these are the folks getting pushed out. Boston is filled with techies, engineers and medical professionals and the majority of them are white and yes they are living in boston
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Old 09-18-2017, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I'm not sure how anyone could think boston is becoming a black/hispanic city quickly...are you serious?? Boston is gentrifying quickly and these are the folks getting pushed out. Boston is filled with techies, engineers and medical professionals and the majority of them are white and yes they are living in boston
If we are talking population of the city of Boston, there are fewer non-Hispanic whites as a percent of population than any time ever in history of the city.
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