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Old 11-02-2017, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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IN the 1860s/1870 the WASPS cities every where were anti-immigrant period. Whether it was the Germans, Irish, or later on the Italians, Poles and Jews This " Irish were oppressed narrative" is not unique to the Irish *big eye roll* and only people in Boston think it is...
Pretty awful comparison, as the major waves of immigration of these groups don't correlate with the Irish.
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Old 11-02-2017, 11:31 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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I'll say maybe what I read is not what was intended. But I don't think its beyond ridiculous. It was a thread on Why is Boston famous for its racism and then somebody started a post with "The Irish." period end of sentence. So I took it as the Irish are the cause of the racism.
So you admit you read two (2) words of a much longer and detailed post and used those two (2) words to form a wildly ignorant judgement on the intention of the piece, and furthermore the result of said judgement was a deep and visceral feeling of being personally offended?
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Old 11-02-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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Holy Crap am I taking crazy pills.

Originally Posted by Infinite_heights77
I mean, the city of perceived to me a very racist city. Is it overblown or sensationalist?


The Irish. Huge history there with the Irish. As victims of "racism", when they arrived as indentured servants, to when they managed to claw their way into a semblance of the middle class, through unions that they manage to control for awhile, and beyond.

This is the actual conversation. So it was it was The Irish followed by some reasons why they're racist.
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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Holy Crap am I taking crazy pills.

Originally Posted by Infinite_heights77
I mean, the city of perceived to me a very racist city. Is it overblown or sensationalist?


The Irish. Huge history there with the Irish. As victims of "racism", when they arrived as indentured servants, to when they managed to claw their way into a semblance of the middle class, through unions that they manage to control for awhile, and beyond.

This is the actual conversation. So it was it was The Irish followed by some reasons why they're racist.



Ok, I think the problem is just a lack of understanding on how message boards work. She wasn't responding to the header (which you posted), nor the intro statement (which was different), but to a specific, much later, comment in the middle of the conversation. What you just posted above, was NOT the actual conversation.


So, you're not crazy, you just don't get how message board conversations work. Not everything is responding to the header. That is especially clear when they quote the piece they are responding to, or augmenting.
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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Ok, I think the problem is just a lack of understanding on how message boards work. She wasn't responding to the header (which you posted), nor the intro statement (which was different), but to a specific, much later, comment in the middle of the conversation. What you just posted above, was NOT the actual conversation.


So, you're not crazy, you just don't get how message board conversations work. Not everything is responding to the header. That is especially clear when they quote the piece they are responding to, or augmenting.
No I posted the quote and the quote it was responding to. Its very literally word for word. Do you understand how message boards work? Somebody types something and then somebody responds.
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:06 PM
 
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People usually don't resort to name calling unless they can't argue the actual point.
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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No I posted the quote and the quote it was responding to. Its very literally word for word. Do you understand how message boards work? Somebody types something and then somebody responds.

Right, they weren't responding to the title. They were responding to the conversation.
Exactly. They never BLAMED the Irish or said that all Irish are racist.\


Now that we got that covered... lets move on.


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People usually don't resort to name calling unless they can't argue the actual point.


Good thing there was no name calling in this thread. So, again, no idea where this would come from!
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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I mean, the city of perceived to me a very racist city. Is it overblown or sensationalist?


The Irish. Huge history there with the Irish. As victims of "racism", when they arrived as indentured servants, to when they managed to claw their way into a semblance of the middle class, through unions that they manage to control for awhile, and beyond.

So the statement was I mean, the city of perceived to me a very racist city. Is it overblown or sensationalist?

And the response was The Irish

And you don't think it was blaming the Irish?
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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And you don't think it was blaming the Irish?

Clearly it was not.


And even more clearly, it wasn't saying all Irish, including you (and me) are racist, which was your next jump:


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WTF? so I'm now racist cause I'm Irish?

BJimmy summed it up as to the intent:


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Yep, she was saying that the history of people's perception of Boston as a racist city goes way further back than the 60s or 70s, probably to the 1860s and 1870s with the treatment of the Irish. This does not actually accuse the Irish of being racist, but the opposite; they were probably the first group in the city to have been the victims of racism. .
It was to the history of the perception.
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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The previous quote wasn't What football team plays in South Bend or What nationality is Liam Neeson?
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