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Old 05-04-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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Yep, it was over 40 years ago. Back in the late 80's, what were people saying about Germans born in the 1940s and after? They're not accountable for Hitler's actions. I think that pretty much dwarfs busing.
Nobody says that people are accountable for acts that people before them did.

Predicting behavior based on what a different group of people in a different era did isn't likely to be accurate.
But not being at fault doesn't mean those acts should be swept under the rug. Some in Boston definitely WERE racist enough to act violently, and human nature indicates there will never be complete absense of racism anywhere. Remembering that it did happen can serve as sobering proof of how awful people can become.

My own long experience in the Boston area was that even without overt bigotry, an undercurrent of skin-color-based racism existed. It wasn't always a case of physical violence, or even racial slurs. Racism can be extremely undercover. If you are white, you probably have no clue what it is.
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Old 05-04-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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Back in "those days" a Bostonian who voted Democrat was not necessarily liberal. Nope, not at all. Attitudes towards homosexuality, different lifestyles, religion, and yes race, could be extremely conservative in someone who voted Democrat.
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Old 05-04-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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Back in "those days" a Bostonian who voted Democrat was not necessarily liberal. Nope, not at all. Attitudes towards homosexuality, different lifestyles, religion, and yes race, could be extremely conservative in someone who voted Democrat.


Um, most democrats today aren't very liberal as the democratic party in general isn't.
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Old 05-04-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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I also dont think the bussing in the 70s has anything to do with it. That was before i was born not to mention many people in boston now arent even from boston originally

You also really think boston is more racist than other parts of the country. Really?
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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Mark Wahlberg, as a teen, went to prison for verbally and physically attacking African American and Vietnamese individuals -- he freely used the N-word. He sent a Vietnamese man to the hospital. He has since fully apologized and been fully pardoned by Massachusetts (in 2014 I believe). He deeply regrets this history and has been liberal politically in his adult life -- supporting Obama twice. I believe Wahlberg was a product of a racist environment in Boston and he has admitted he was playing up to his gang members. Today he seems like a decent guy but it just goes to show that the city he grew up in -- obviously to this day viz the Adam Jones incident -- still has serious racial issues DESPITE being a very blue/liberal city politically. Boston has always been paradoxical in this sense.
No pardon was ever given and Wahlberg now regrets having asked for it as it dragged up stories from his past that not everyone knew about.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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Real answer is the public bussing crisis of the 70s. That put us in the national forefront and we never left.


Having the Red Sox to be the last team to integrate didn't help and helped set that stage as well.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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Real answer is the public bussing crisis of the 70s. That put us in the national forefront and we never left.


Having the Red Sox to be the last team to integrate didn't help and helped set that stage as well.
well I am from here originally and I didnt even know this about the red sox. Sorry but I dont think this is contributing to racism.

I would think southern states have far more issues than boston due to slavery and segregation issues from the 60s.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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When I lived there it seemed pretty racist to me. In this day and age, it is pretty rare that you can walk into a business and not be served. It is pretty sad when you as a visitor approach a cop and ask "hi, I was told the xxx bus stops here, but I don't see any sign, can you tell me where the stop is" and be told "I don't have to tell you sh*t", I guess that's why they have a reputation - because they (general) are racists - more so than any other place I have been.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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'It is pretty sad when you as a visitor approach a cop and ask "hi, I was told the xxx bus stops here, but I don't see any sign, can you tell me where the stop is" and be told "I don't have to tell you sh*t"'

A boston cop said this to you? That is odd...must have had one who had been up for days doing details.
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: New London
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If it's voluntary segregation, it's not.
Unless they're white, then voluntary self-segregation becomes racist.


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Yep, it was over 40 years ago. Back in the late 80's, what were people saying about Germans born in the 1940s and after? They're not accountable for Hitler's actions. I think that pretty much dwarfs busing.
So we're comparing the busing crisis to the holocaust now? Seriously?
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