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Old 05-04-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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well I am from here originally and I didnt even know this about the red sox. Sorry but I dont think this is contributing to racism.

I would think southern states have far more issues than boston due to slavery and segregation issues from the 60s.


I never said it was contributing to racism. It's the perception, and that's what we're discussing. You seem to have it in your head that if it isn't part of your life span it isn't a major factor. Nothing could be further from the truth. Community history is a powerful force. For example, very very few people are around from when Quabbin was made and communities evacuated and drowned, and a huge chunk of the people in the area of North Quabbin now weren't even from that area originally, yet that "tale" and suspicion of the DCR and state government from that incident runs VERY deeply in the community, it has been passed along from generation to newcomer to generation. It is very real.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:16 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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I mean, the city of perceived to me a very racist city. Is it overblown or sensationalist?
The school busing riots of the 1970s.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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People fail to acknowledge that every major city had segregated schools, and that Boston was singled out with forced bussing. It was political payback by the Nixon administration. So yes, there is a political association there. Most racists I know of from the Boston area are liberal Democrats. This seemed to change with Obama, although in some cases the party loyalty continued.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:45 PM
 
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People fail to acknowledge that every major city had segregated schools, and that Boston was singled out with forced bussing. It was political payback by the Nixon administration. So yes, there is a political association there. Most racists I know of from the Boston area are liberal Democrats. This seemed to change with Obama, although in some cases the party loyalty continued.


What makes you think they're liberal democrats and not just democrats?
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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What makes you think they're liberal democrats and not just democrats?
On the issues. Pro-union, anti-corporation, defenders of the safety net, for legalization and universal healthcare, etc.

A few even hated Reagan, who even most Democrats supported at the time.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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People fail to acknowledge that every major city had segregated schools, and that Boston was singled out with forced bussing. It was political payback by the Nixon administration. So yes, there is a political association there. Most racists I know of from the Boston area are liberal Democrats. This seemed to change with Obama, although in some cases the party loyalty continued.
The problem that existed was unequal funding of the schools, not segregation, per se. Judge Garrity's solution was to desegregate the schools.
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Old 05-04-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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The problem that existed was unequal funding of the schools, not segregation, per se. Judge Garrity's solution was to desegregate the schools.
True, but that also existed in nearly every other city. Boston WAS singled out as political payback, which is partially why there was so much hostilty at the time, and why so much bitterness remained for so long. Also, Eastie was spared due to threats from the mob. This did not go over well with the rest of the city, particularly Southie. It's a big part of the animosity between the Irish and Italians.
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:29 AM
 
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I used to look at Common Ground! Very interesting program.


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The TV miniseries, Common Ground, (based on the J. Anthony Lukas book) had some scenes that were filmed in Boston. The most puzzling one (people who never lived in Boston wouldn't have noticed this) was when the girl from Roxbury was being bused to high school in Charlestown. The school bus was driving over the Tobin Bridge as if it was coming from Chelsea.

J. Anthony Lukas, Common Ground: A Turbulent Decade in the Lives of Three American Families (1985) - A Companion to Post-1945 America - Brinkley - Wiley Online Library

I was living in the Boston 'burbs when the whole METCO thing was happening. People were freaking out about it in the town I lived in. In the end, it turned out that the town didn't participate in the program.
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:35 AM
 
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People fail to acknowledge that every major city had segregated schools, and that Boston was singled out with forced bussing. It was political payback by the Nixon administration.
*Hmmmmm... This is a very interesting comment. I've heard this before and how Boston was used as "political payback" by the Nixon administration. There are few books I'm trying to find out the forced busing in Boston.

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People fail to acknowledge that every major city had segregated schools, and that Boston was singled out with forced bussing. It was political payback by the Nixon administration. So yes, there is a political association there. Most racists I know of from the Boston area are liberal Democrats. This seemed to change with Obama, although in some cases the party loyalty continued.
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:44 AM
 
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Yeah, I was told the food is pretty good!


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Whalburgers is pretty good. On par with other burger chains like tasty burger.
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