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Old 07-04-2017, 12:39 AM
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Paul O'Neill sucks and always thought he was the umpire. Seriously just umpire the game Paul - tell everyone else what to do all the time.

A-Rod we all know about.

Bucky Dent crushed our spirits in 1978. The coke-addled Mets did it again in 1986.

Eric Mangini left to coach the Jets, and then became one of the biggest rats of all-time. Nice job being out of the league by the way. Goat. The Jets are the biggest embarrassment in the NFL.

Maybe aside from Jeff Fisher.
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:58 AM
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Originally Posted by iAMtheVVALRUS View Post
Wild thought I had recently:

The folks who settled MA (the Pilgrims) had lived in Holland for a few years prior to making the trip across the sea. They ultimately decided that they would rather brave the New World than keep living in the Netherlands.

Do you think the fact that NY was first settled by the Dutch would've put the two areas somewhat at odds with each other even right after their founding because of the Pilgrims' history with the Dutch?

Probably not. Again it's just a crazy thought.
(Also apologies if someone's already shared a similar thought. I didn't read the entire thread before posting)
While I believe any rival these days is mostly sports related, its not a crazy thought, you might be onto something. History does play a role in our modern culture even if we do not realize it.

Back in the 1600s while Massachusetts Bay and Plymouth were largely settled by the English, New York/New Netherland was already multi-ethnic with Dutch, English, Scots, Huguenots (French Protestants), Walloons (Belgians) and Germans. To make matters worse, the English settlers in New York were often religious outcasts (such as the Quakers) from Massachusetts or Plymouth because they refused to follow the Puritan teachings.

Even minor religious differences were a very big deal back in the 1600s. Its hard to believe today but at one time Catholics were not allowed to be buried in Boston! So try to imagine how the Puritans felt, they had crossed the Atlantic only to find that not far away there was a colony and city overrun with foreigners and religious heretics.
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