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Old 05-29-2017, 04:09 PM
 
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Ok! Act like I just landed down from another solar system and don't know jack about either cities.

Question: Historically speaking, how did Boston and New York become rival cities (is it their nefarious baseball history)??!! Or, am I just making all this up? I mean, Boston folks talk about New Yorkers bad and vice-a-verse. I had a friend of mine, from New York, who moved to Boston. Of course he was a Yankees fan and represented his city. He'd shared stories of when he moved to Boston for school, he couldn't enter bars/business with NY Yankees ballcaps on! Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahaha... Seriously??!! There are like 2 East Coast bullies on the same block with a running inter-generational fight on who is the toughest city.
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Old 05-29-2017, 05:58 PM
 
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The baseball rivalry goes back to the Babe Ruth thing, which exacerbated a natural rivalry between two good teams in the same division, who are not that geographically that far apart.

Many other cities are alleged to have a rivalry with New York -- Boston, Philadelphia, DC, Chicago, L.A. Too many to be true "rivals." There are some people everywhere who just have contempt for NYC, because it is a large, successful city that tends to outshine a lot of other places and gets more attention. I have found that most people in Boston, Philly, DC, Chicago, and L.A. don't really devote a whole lot of thought to New York City. Many residents of those other cities like NYC just fine.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:20 PM
 
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Boston is just better than New York, New York simply can't handle it.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: New England
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NYC smells.
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Old 05-29-2017, 09:07 PM
 
Location: The State Line
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It's time to review some notes from US History 101... .

Historically speaking, Boston and New York were roughly the same size with similar significance in the colonial era (from mid-late 18th century). Of course, after the founding of the Nation, the first ever Census, and thanks to Alexander Hamilton, New York became a banking/business/commercial center. New York has been on top ever since. I suspect Boston (and other cities) have felt some resentment for just as long.

Oh, Philly and DC also have some historical significance, but that's another lesson for another day.

Honestly, I think it's mostly sports related these days. Even though Philly closer to NYC, Boston shares a more competitive history. (Baseball and Football, at the very least; other sports more competitive in one city over another i.e. Boston with Hockey and Basketball; NYC with Baseball.)
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Old 05-30-2017, 04:53 AM
 
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I hate Montreal more than ny
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Old 05-30-2017, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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It's time to review some notes from US History 101... .

Historically speaking, Boston and New York were roughly the same size with similar significance in the colonial era (from mid-late 18th century). Of course, after the founding of the Nation, the first ever Census, and thanks to Alexander Hamilton, New York became a banking/business/commercial center. New York has been on top ever since. I suspect Boston (and other cities) have felt some resentment for just as long.

Oh, Philly and DC also have some historical significance, but that's another lesson for another day.

Honestly, I think it's mostly sports related these days. Even though Philly closer to NYC, Boston shares a more competitive history. (Baseball and Football, at the very least; other sports more competitive in one city over another i.e. Boston with Hockey and Basketball; NYC with Baseball.)
Yep. Boston has this whole "Hey, we were supposed to be what New York has become" chip on its shoulder.

Provincialism, puritanism, and a naturally inferior harbor all colluded to give NYC the nod.
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Old 05-30-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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Yep. Boston has this whole "Hey, we were supposed to be what New York has become" chip on its shoulder.

Provincialism, puritanism, and a naturally inferior harbor all colluded to give NYC the nod.
Honestly I think I'd more reversed people in New York are annoyed people in the Boston area just don't care.
Knowing a lot of people from greater NYC they seem to have more distain for Boston than vice-versa.

Like I think one time during the Cold War the NYT mocked the people of Boston with a joke Globe Headline "Boston Man Dies in NY nuclear attack"or something like that.
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Old 05-30-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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A more equal city versus city debate would be about Boston and Philadelphia.

New York is so large and important a city it is in another league.

The Boston vs. Philly thing is interesting because they come from two different historical traditions: PURITAN Boston and QUAKER Philadelphia.
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Old 05-30-2017, 03:14 PM
 
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A more equal city versus city debate would be about Boston and Philadelphia.

New York is so large and important a city it is in another league.

The Boston vs. Philly thing is interesting because they come from two different historical traditions: PURITAN Boston and QUAKER Philadelphia.
The only thing people hate about Philly is the Flyers.

I though Bostonians were more famous for being totally oblivious to the world outside their bubble than actually disliking anyone else
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