UBS thinks Boston Real Estate is fairly priced (Brockton, Lawrence: crime rate, high school)

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Yup as long as you get yours it's all good. Forget everyone else!

I can't afford to buy in Boston. That doesn't mean I'm bitter about it. I'm not a high enough earner, I chose a career path that doesn't rake in the $$$. I'm ok with that. Just because I grew up some place, became educated and have a job doesn't entitle me to live or buy in a highly desirable neighborhood or where I grew up. I'm not that entitled.

[The_General]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Yup as long as you get yours it's all good. Forget everyone else!

You know what - Yup that is exactly how I feel

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by timberline742

I can't afford to buy in Boston. That doesn't mean I'm bitter about it. I'm not a high enough earner, I chose a career path that doesn't rake in the $$$. I'm ok with that. Just because I grew up some place, became educated and have a job doesn't entitle me to live or buy in a highly desirable neighborhood or where I grew up. I'm not that entitled.

I was saying that one can't ignore the negative effects of shootings in poor areas, which you would like to ignore.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by The_General

You know what - Yup that is exactly how I feel

I was being ironically facetious.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

I was saying that one can't ignore the negative effects of shootings in poor areas, which you would like to ignore.

No one ignored them. Or claimed they didn't happen.


It's just not a big issue in the quality of a city. All major cities (in the U.S.) have those areas where they occur all too frequently, even quality ones. However, its not a hindrance to them being a high quality or desirable city.


It seems like people don't even want to read the words I type, they just wish to bash the city and promote some bizarre anti Boston agenda.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by timberline742

No one ignored them. Or claimed they didn't happen.


It's just not a big issue in the quality of a city. All major cities (in the U.S.) have those areas where they occur all too frequently, even quality ones. However, its not a hindrance to them being a high quality or desirable city.


It seems like people don't even want to read the words I type, they just wish to bash the city and promote some bizarre anti Boston agenda.

Nobody's bashing the city. It's almost as if people aren't reading the words I type...

Disagree on the point about shootings mattering. That's fine. But the woe-is-me is ridiculous, though not unexpected.

Anyway, I've lived in these kinds of areas before, though not in Boston. It's not a good time. Gets old after not that long.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Disagree on the point about shootings mattering. That's fine. But the woe-is-me is ridiculous, though not unexpected. .

So, since every city of any size has these shootings, you seem them as all undesirable cities to live in, because of them.


Got it. That makes lots of sense.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by timberline742

So, since every city of any size has these shootings, you seem them as all undesirable cities to live in, because of them.


Got it. That makes lots of sense.

Not at all what I said and I know you know that.

Any disagreement tends to take a typical turn when dealing with certain posters. I'm happy to say "you win" if it clears the unbearable smug out of this board.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Not at all what I said and I know you know that.

Any disagreement tends to take a typical turn when dealing with certain posters. I'm happy to say "you win" if it clears the unbearable smug out of this board.

No, I don't know that. It seems to be what you are saying. That if some shootings occur, usually in specific areas that are away from where most people live and work, that the entire city has reduced desirability.

That's what you seemed to say. And in this case, every city of any size in the U.S. has decreased desirability.

If that isn't your point, I have no idea what is. You didn't articulate it very well. No one said shootings do not matter to people or the community. No one implied it. So that certainly can't be your point.

And I agree, any time you discuss Boston you seem to try to take advantage of telling people "this city isn't so great", "everyone here seems to think they're so smart, enlightened, and special... they're not", and "first chance I can get out of here I will, because you can do a lot better elsewhere for less money". Yawn. It's tiresome.

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by Urban Peasant

At one time in Boston's not too distant past, $600 could get you a one bedroom in Fields Corner. Of course Boston was not as popular back then as it is now. You can't even get a one bedroom in a bad part of Lowell these days for $600 and Lowell is close to an hour away from Downtown Boston by driving.

Though Boston/Cambridge fuels the larger job market, it isn't the sole destination for high wage jobs, which is reflected in the COL for eastern/central MA and southern NH. Lowell's housing supports multiple job markets, including: southern NH (BAE, Fidelity, Lib Mutual), rt.3/95 tech belt, Worcester's healthcare/insurer/higher ed market, the large 495 corp-centers (Philips, GE, Bos Sci, J&J, etc.), as well as metro Boston.

I'd argue $1,300-1,500 dollars for a loft apartment is a bargain given it's access to various job markets as well as having a commuter rail accessible from downtown rentals.