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Old 03-15-2018, 06:40 AM
 
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Exactly. And for those that want to turn this into a race issue, I'd guess that the vast majority of people (white, black, brown, yellow, purple, etc) are not comfortable in these gang infested areas.


I think the vast majority of people are completely comfortable standing on a red line platform.
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Old 03-15-2018, 07:09 AM
 
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S.............. Is it only dangerous at night or is the train stop an exception to being relativly safe compared to the rest of mattapan or is it all hype?

UNSAFE

PAPA GINOs pizza store will validate it.
PAPA GINOs had a location right in front of the Mattapan T stop for years.
The place was getting robbed so often, twice they got robbed the same day.
PAPA GINOs finally got run of the location.
Have i , the poster ever used the Mattapan T? Many times. Til i fled Boston 2 decades ago

Also, the Mattapan T is just off Blue Hill ave. The most dangerous crime filled street east of the Bronx.
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Old 03-15-2018, 07:24 AM
 
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The Bronx? The Bronx is one of the fastest gentrifying hipster locations in NY! Dangerous?!!?!?!




Good grief.
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Old 03-15-2018, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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The Bronx? The Bronx is one of the fastest gentrifying hipster locations in NY! Dangerous?!!?!?!




Good grief.
The Bronx is huge. It would be a stand alone city more than 2x the size of Boston. A claim that the entire Bronx is dangerous is just as dubious as a claim suggesting that "the Bronx" at large/as a whole is "one of the fastest gentrifying hipster locations in NY!" There are good and bad parts of the Bronx. Overall I'd say it's more good than bad. But some parts are pretty downright depressing.
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Old 03-15-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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The Bronx is huge. It would be a stand alone city more than 2x the size of Boston. A claim that the entire Bronx is dangerous is just as dubious as a claim suggesting that "the Bronx" at large/as a whole is "one of the fastest gentrifying hipster locations in NY!" There are good and bad parts of the Bronx. Overall I'd say it's more good than bad. But some parts are pretty downright depressing.


Well sure, no one said otherwise, but there are loads of places much sketchier than the Bronx overall, so its a bizarre choice of locations to use. It's also really doubtful that Mattapan is the "most dangerous" place in the U.S. to the east of the Bronx.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:40 AM
 
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Exactly. And for those that want to turn this into a race issue, I'd guess that the vast majority of people (white, black, brown, yellow, purple, etc) are not comfortable in these gang infested areas.
I also don't see any of these defenders lining up to live in Mattapan. Yet when somebody else advises caution, they are automatically "afraid of POC". Actions speak louder than words...


And yes, I have waited for a bus in Mattapan Square in the 90s when things were supposedly worse. I'm still alive to talk about it, but doesn't mean I would live there.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I also don't see any of these defenders lining up to live in Mattapan. Yet when somebody else advises caution, they are automatically "afraid of POC". Actions speak louder than words...
You'd think they would at least be a bit reserved about doing this, but no. In fact, some of these types of posters, though not necessarily participating in this thread per se, live in some of the whitest zips in the metro. Some may call that "irony", others perhaps favor the term "hypocrisy". You be the judge.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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Well sure, no one said otherwise, but there are loads of places much sketchier than the Bronx overall, so its a bizarre choice of locations to use. It's also really doubtful that Mattapan is the "most dangerous" place in the U.S. to the east of the Bronx.
I would agree, Mattapan is certainly not that.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:52 AM
 
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NYC is acutally statistically one of the safest big cities in the US. Sure much of the Bronx is ugly, but it's not that unsafe.

For comparison sake, NYC had just under 800 shootings last year. Chicago, with 1/3 of NYC's population, had 2,758 shootings last year.

Looking at homicides, in 2017 NYC had 290. Chicago with 1/3 the population had 644. And in 1990 NYC reported 2,245 murders, so the drop in crime during the last 25 years or so in NYC has been remarkable.
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Old 03-15-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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I also don't see any of these defenders lining up to live in Mattapan. Yet when somebody else advises caution, they are automatically "afraid of POC". Actions speak louder than words...


And yes, I have waited for a bus in Mattapan Square in the 90s when things were supposedly worse. I'm still alive to talk about it, but doesn't mean I would live there.

We aren't talking about living there. We're talking about getting on a train there. I was at red line stops for basketball leagues for years down there, its not a big deal. I never felt "unsafe" because... why would I? What does that mean to people if it isn't "sketchy people" being about (usually a code for young male POC).

I would absolutely have lived there to if it had the amenities and transit to where I needed to work as well, but I worked on the orange line, so a very non-white section of East Somerville is where I mostly lived.
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