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Old 03-19-2018, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Hartford and Bridgeport in Connecticut would also make Mattapan look like Newton. When I lived in Quincy I used that bike path along the trolley line as well as the streets between River Street and the trolley line for for jogging. I never felt unsafe in the slightest in that area.
Erroneous. Hartford is poorer than Mattapan and has more extreme light but it also has a lot that Mattapan doesn't. Hartford has entire neighborhood of mansions in the north and northwest and very stately homes to the southwest. The worst parts of Mattapan... obviously you haven't ventured onto Lucerne Street, Woodrow Avenue, Wildwood Street and all of the abutting streets that look worse than much of Hartford. Boston unlike most cities invested heavily in its "Main Streets" and very very little on residential side streets. Hartford also is a whole city. High lighting Mattapan Station and the portion that is/is along the brand new bike path is just letting the city off the hook.
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:13 PM
 
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Erroneous. Hartford is poorer than Mattapan and has more extreme light but it also has a lot that Mattapan doesn't. Hartford has entire neighborhood of mansions in the north and northwest and very stately homes to the southwest. The worst parts of Mattapan... obviously you haven't ventured onto Lucerne Street, Woodrow Avenue, Wildwood Street and all of the abutting streets that look worse than much of Hartford. Boston unlike most cities invested heavily in its "Main Streets" and very very little on residential side streets. Hartford also is a whole city. High lighting Mattapan Station and the portion that is/is along the brand new bike path is just letting the city off the hook.
Well geez, for one thing Hartford is the employment and cultural center of the whole metro area rather than a minor civil division. Hartford's north end is more dilapidated than anything in Mattapan but Albany Ave and Blue Hill Ave have a lot in common, including the side streets packed with three deckers and other frame houses, and a newer, more suburban area (Blue Hills [in Hartford] and the River St area of Mattapan) nearby. Both Albany Ave and Mattapan were Jewish districts before rapid racial turnover in the 1960s. Supposedly many a campaign for Mayoral or statewide office ended up at a Ward 14 rally in front of the G & G delicatessen on Blue Hill Avenue near Morton Street.
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Old 03-20-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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Well geez, for one thing Hartford is the employment and cultural center of the whole metro area rather than a minor civil division. Hartford's north end is more dilapidated than anything in Mattapan but Albany Ave and Blue Hill Ave have a lot in common, including the side streets packed with three deckers and other frame houses, and a newer, more suburban area (Blue Hills [in Hartford] and the River St area of Mattapan) nearby. Both Albany Ave and Mattapan were Jewish districts before rapid racial turnover in the 1960s. Supposedly many a campaign for Mayoral or statewide office ended up at a Ward 14 rally in front of the G & G delicatessen on Blue Hill Avenue near Morton Street.
I doubt the north end is more dilipifated but I'm talking about northwest Hartford near UHart, those are huge houses and honestly all of Hartford residential areas are more suburban in character than Boston's aside from the use of more brick. They tend to have lawns, even right off Albany many of the homes are like those in Elm Hill in Roxbury. Many more 2 families than 3 families in Hartford. You can't tell at one point it was richer than Boston. All in saying is it doesn't make anywhere in the DRM look like Newton although it's. certainly more rundown.
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