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Old 11-07-2019, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Somerville, MA
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Yikes. No wonder the Boston restaurant scene continues to feel more and more like a VC funded wasteland.

May Worcester's no quota system be long lived.
What's also happening is that Boston is pushing to restrict licenses to neighborhoods. So in a few years, Doyle's License might not be transferable outside of Jamaica Plain. Obviously that change impacts the value of a liquor license. Downtown/Seaport licenses will be far more valuable than licenses in smaller, quieter neighborhoods. So if you own a neighborhood restaurant, it makes sense to sell high before any changes hit the value of your license.
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Old 11-07-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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What's also happening is that Boston is pushing to restrict licenses to neighborhoods. So in a few years, Doyle's License might not be transferable outside of Jamaica Plain. Obviously that change impacts the value of a liquor license. Downtown/Seaport licenses will be far more valuable than licenses in smaller, quieter neighborhoods. So if you own a neighborhood restaurant, it makes sense to sell high before any changes hit the value of your license.
The guy in Roslindale square cited just that when he left his his location in a similar huff. i think it's the way to go. Why should someone wanting to open a little restaurant have to compete with Davio's in the sea port.
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Old 11-07-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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The guy in Roslindale square cited just that when he left his his location in a similar huff. i think it's the way to go. Why should someone wanting to open a little restaurant have to compete with Davio's in the sea port.

True, but in the meantime, if they don't issue new licenses when they incorporate that system there are going to be a bunch more places with nothing. I would think the sucking sounds of licenses from diverse neighborhoods to places like the Seaport would only increase in the near future. That would suck.
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Old Yesterday, 07:10 AM
 
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Seems that if business was lucrative he would pony up the $150k for the fan, or maybe look for a different location?
Theres gotta be something behind this.
No.....lets say the hood was $150,000 and the sandwiches net him a $3 profit each. He would have to make 50,000 sandwiches to just cover the cost of the hood. 50,000!!!!!! no profit sandwiches.

Same math applies to moving or increased rent or both. Guy was there 9 years, no fires, no code issues.

Then consider once you have the hood, it will need to be cleaned a few times a year which would get expensive due to the length (basement to roof).


The guy did the right thing, he jumped off the hamster wheel.
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Old Yesterday, 09:57 AM
 
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No.....lets say the hood was $150,000 and the sandwiches net him a $3 profit each. He would have to make 50,000 sandwiches to just cover the cost of the hood. 50,000!!!!!! no profit sandwiches.

Same math applies to moving or increased rent or both. Guy was there 9 years, no fires, no code issues.

Then consider once you have the hood, it will need to be cleaned a few times a year which would get expensive due to the length (basement to roof).


The guy did the right thing, he jumped off the hamster wheel.
Or, you know, move to a location which supports his business. Also,extraction hood installs run about 1k-1.5k per linear foot, which means for a 72" griddle you're looking at maybe a $10K tops, assuming a fairly standard build out and all the additional regulated stuff like stainless walls, fire suppression, etc.

Everything about this story is hyperbole.
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Old Yesterday, 10:39 AM
 
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Boston doesn't need any more restaurants, anyway. There are things called "grocery stores" which should handle most of your culinary needs. Eating out is a "sometimes" thing, not an everyday event..
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Old Yesterday, 10:45 AM
 
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Boston doesn't need any more restaurants, anyway. There are things called "grocery stores" which should handle most of your culinary needs. Eating out is a "sometimes" thing, not an everyday event..


For you and me its a sometimes thing. For lots of people it is an everyday thing. Each to their own.
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Old Yesterday, 11:09 AM
 
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Boston doesn't need any more restaurants, anyway. There are things called "grocery stores" which should handle most of your culinary needs. Eating out is a "sometimes" thing, not an everyday event..
LOL

Boston actually does need more reasonably priced places serving honest food and not trying to pick our pockets. Roast Beast was such a place.
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