Is Boston racist?!?!?!? (Lynn: codes, legally, club)

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by CrissyLynn

You people should call consider yourselves Lucky! I live in GA ;where black people are ALWAYS considered "N-Words" and my little sisters still have to deal with school segregation as if it was the 1950z. At the football games the white people sit on one side of the field and the black people have to sit on the other. There is a separate black-basketball cheerleading squad from the white-football cheerleading squad. If I WERE to look past the ignorant views of the people in this town and date a black, Hispanic, or any other ethnicity than my own; my family would disown me and I would be considered "white-trash"

Im moving to BOSTON... were its not so bad!

You have a point about GA. I also do not believe that Boston is any better. Boston has problems and so does GA, but the history of both places are different. GA has a history rooted in slavery. Boston did have slavery initially but willingly let go of it. GA had to go through a war before slavery ended there. After the Civil War both places had different narratives. Boston had a tide of immigrants moving in. Georgia didn't. Race relations in GA have this narrative: It was a matter of control. You had the Black Codes. In Boston, there was strife due to the competition of work in the factories and alot of people not wanting to live around certain people. Segregation occurred in both places. Massachussetts just had more ethnic groups. in Georgia it was mostly Blacks and Whites of English, and Scotch-Irish descent, maybe a few Jews and whites of German descent. In Massachussetts you had Blacks(and not just African-Americans either, Cape Verdeans as well), Whites of Irish, Italian, French-Canadian, Portuguese,etc. Both places were no better, just different.

[Kumud]

Originally Posted by miu

Fine. But when a black person chooses to cross the street, not in a crosswalk, walking very slowly and not looking at the oncoming cars, it's going to make the people in those cars livid with rage. If you're not going to use the crosswalk and not wait for the walk signal, at least have the courtesy to walk or run quickly across the road. But what I see ALL of the time is that black people, particularly young black men, walk really really slowly when crossing the streets. As long as they keep doing that stupid nonsense, then they will keep getting cursed at by people in their cars.

Now if it's an old person or someone with an obvious handicap struggling to cross the street, then drivers will cut them slack, but again, they should be in a crosswalk. But a young person has no reason at all to be shuffling slowly across the street against traffic.

What about when someone of another race does it?
Is it less serious?

[miu]

Originally Posted by Kumud

What about when someone of another race does it?
Is it less serious?

I honestly have never seen young people (teens and early 20's) of any other race ever shuffling slowly across the street making the oncoming cars wait for them to slowly finish crossing. It seems to be a black thing and my other friends (that I can be honest and not pc about it) fully agree with me.

Obviously, not all blacks do this, but the slow street crossers (the ones that are healthy and young enough to be able to walk quickly or even run) are black people, mostly black males and doing the ghetto walk. If they would stop doing that, it would help race relations A LOT!

And of of, people of all races don't always use the crosswalk or wait for the walk signal, but at least those people hurry across the street and don't make the cars stop. Other people also tend to look over at the oncoming car traffic and will hold up their hand in an apologetic way as they hustle across. The black people refuse to look at the car drivers and seem to be in their own little bubble of entitlement, like they have some extra pedestrian rights that no other race has. Or it's that they don't have to hurry and it's okay to make others wait for them, even if the the cars have the right of way.

[Kumud]

Originally Posted by miu

I honestly have never seen young people (teens and early 20's) of any other race ever shuffling slowly across the street making the oncoming cars wait for them to slowly finish crossing. It seems to be a black thing and my other friends (that I can be honest and not pc about it) fully agree with me.

Obviously, not all blacks do this, but the slow street crossers (the ones that are healthy and young enough to be able to walk quickly or even run) are black people, mostly black males and doing the ghetto walk. If they would stop doing that, it would help race relations A LOT!

And of of, people of all races don't always use the crosswalk or wait for the walk signal, but at least those people hurry across the street and don't make the cars stop. Other people also tend to look over at the oncoming car traffic and will hold up their hand in an apologetic way as they hustle across. The black people refuse to look at the car drivers and seem to be in their own little bubble of entitlement, like they have some extra pedestrian rights that no other race has. Or it's that they don't have to hurry and it's okay to make others wait for them, even if the the cars have the right of way.

Of course not all of them do it, but you just had to use that race as an example!
Never mind that anyone can do stupid obnoxious ****!

Oh wait,I just remembered that black people who aren 't everything that the stereotypes say they are is nothing to write home about.
Who would care?
Let's all log on to CD and tell the world about all the bad experiences we've had with one black person and generalize.
No wonder racism will never end

[miu]

Originally Posted by Kumud

Of course not all of them do it, but you just had to use that race as an example!
Never mind that anyone can do stupid obnoxious ****!

Oh wait,I just remembered that black people who aren 't everything that the stereotypes say they are is nothing to write home about.
Who would care?
Let's all log on to CD and tell the world about all the bad experiences we've had with one black person and generalize.
No wonder racism will never end

And why shouldn't I use that example? It wasn't just ONE incident with ONE black person. It's happen to me and my friends numerous times. It's always a black person or a group of black people dressed in ghetto gear doing it. It's like "Look at me/us and we can do what we want to. Traffic rules don't apply to us. We also aren't looking at you because we are better than you." Or try to hit us and we will mess up your car and collect from your insurance company." And it stands out because these people are being so damn inconsiderate and NOT obeying the traffic rules. There is absolutely no excuse for walking that slowly. And it happens a lot and in every US city that I've ever been in. And every time a young black person does that, it does set back racial relations.

[Kumud]

Originally Posted by miu

And why shouldn't I use that example? It wasn't just ONE incident with ONE black person. It's happen to me and my friends numerous times. It's always a black person or a group of black people dressed in ghetto gear doing it. It's like "Look at me/us and we can do what we want to. Traffic rules don't apply to us. We also aren't looking at you because we are better than you." Or try to hit us and we will mess up your car and collect from your insurance company." And it stands out because these people are being so damn inconsiderate and NOT obeying the traffic rules. There is absolutely no excuse for walking that slowly. And it happens a lot and in every US city that I've ever been in. And every time a young black person does that, it does set back racial relations.

No it does set racial relations because people like YOU already ASSsume before anything happens that they're such.

[Kumud]

Originally Posted by miu

And why shouldn't I use that example? It wasn't just ONE incident with ONE black person. It's happen to me and my friends numerous times. It's always a black person or a group of black people dressed in ghetto gear doing it. It's like "Look at me/us and we can do what we want to. Traffic rules don't apply to us. We also aren't looking at you because we are better than you." Or try to hit us and we will mess up your car and collect from your insurance company." And it stands out because these people are being so damn inconsiderate and NOT obeying the traffic rules. There is absolutely no excuse for walking that slowly. And it happens a lot and in every US city that I've ever been in. And every time a young black person does that, it does set back racial relations.

By the way it is known fact that America is a very litigious society.
What you are describing is an American phenomenon not a Black American(about 14%) conspiracy.

[miu]

Originally Posted by Kumud

By the way it is known fact that America is a very litigious society.
What you are describing is an American phenomenon not a Black American(about 14%) conspiracy.

I am just going by my first hand experiences and my friends, and also actually what I see posted on several message boards that are youth oriented. It's a fact, and not some urban myth that blacks have a problem crossing the street in a timely fashion. And it's always black city youths too. And no, it doesn't happen in areas with colleges and youths of all races crossing the street. Those people walk with a purpose and they tend to be in the crosswalk and with the walk light.

Anyway, I don't see why you are taking this so personally. I'm not attacking the way you cross the road. And I am being honest and sincere when I say that if black people would only cross the streets properly like civilized and considerate fellow citizens, then they wouldn't become the "victims" of road rage resulted in hurled racial slurs.

It's really quite simple, if you want to walk that slow, then use a crosswalk and with a walk signal. If the cars have the right of way, don't try to cross in front of them.

[miu]

And just curious Kumud, were you at all offended at Obama's Father Day speak to a primarily black audience when he told the men to be better fathers, to turn off the tv and stop feeding their kids Popeye's fried chicken? Or is it okay because Obama is black? Can only a black person criticize another black person or group?

[sportsfangal]

oh-I should have posted here, but under a different post about before you move to Boston, I was wondering what the conditions are like in South Boston for Blacks? Forgive me if this has already been answered-But I am not orginally from Boston, and I would like to go to new restaurants/bars in S Boston, just wondering if I will be called the "n" word as I walk down the street? will I get harassed at night? It's too bad I have to worry about this in 2008, but blatant and undercover racism exists everywhere, unfortunately. I just want to have a peaceful drink/meal at new places in town.