Why Is Boulder Snobbish, Cliquish, And Racist? (Denver, Aurora: lawyer, home)

[osman]

Tom, you will create your own reality wherever you choose to go. If you come expecting to find a huge range of negative experiences, that is likely what you will experience. Years ago I stumbled on the idea that people create their own reality, looking for experiences that reinforce our existing beliefs. I think that idea, when understood properly, holds tremendous wisdom.

All kidding aside, I'm deeply proud of our community and am very happy living here.

Here's a list of awards that you might want to consider:

[CCCVDUR]

Originally Posted by osman

Tom, you will create your own reality wherever you choose to go. If you come expecting to find a huge range of negative experiences, that is likely what you will experience. Years ago I stumbled on the idea that people create their own reality.....I'm deeply proud of our community and...here's a list of awards that you might want to consider:

I've heard this same line of thinking from people in Santa Fe, NM. That town did not work for me, and neither does that line of thinking. The people are very snobbish in New Mexico. I have been my happiest on the West Coast and Vegas, and my saddest in the Rocky Mountain west. The question remains, is Boulder/Denver different than Flagstaff, Albuquerque, and Santa Fe, when it comes to issues such as snobbery and welcoming newcomers. Sorry, if a town is pretentious with its list of awards and so forth, then that town is probably not for me. I have not completely ruled out Boulder.

As for the Conscienscious Personality type, I did post a link to the map for all 50 states:

The United States of Mind - WSJ.com

[osman]

So what's stopping you from moving to a place where you were happiest?

[CCCVDUR]

Originally Posted by osman

So what's stopping you from moving to a place where you were happiest?

Good question. It's the Seattle Weather and its limiting factor on physical exertion due to some chronic sports injuries! Constant rain Sept 20th-June 28th! On the other hand, I'm not so sure about your Pacific cold fronts advancing from UT and WY, and your "back door cold fronts" from the Great Plains towards the Rockies. New Mexico has the same issues, Arizona does not. However, the percentage of possible sunshine in Colorado is high all year long...averaging about 65% per month. And, you have some great medical centers in Colorado....medical care in Flagstaff/Sedona is insufficient and mainly for University students and the rich, since many docs in Flag don't takes medicare or insurance...

[barryhussein]

I passed through this thread and had to throw in my two Pesos. I voted for the Bushes a total of six times, for starters. I can appreciate Boulder. It's quite clean, great views, and a good night scene. They have managed to keep it nice, through the years. IMHO, what irritates people about this place is the abundance of the elitist type of liberals. If their daughters showed up with a man of color; many would have a stroke. I spent five months there, years ago, and while enjoying it; the economy seemed a little lame, and I wished that I had been in a more happening part of Denver.
At that time, I could have bought the condo I was renting at Gunbarrel for about 25K. It would have been a good deal.

CU is a great school. Any parent would be blessed to have their son/daughter go to school there.
Greetings from Dulles, Virginia and good luck to everyone.

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by Tom Lane

many docs in Flag don't takes medicare or insurance...

It's getting hard to find a doctor anywhere that accepts new Medicare patients. Medicare is becoming the same as being uninsured. If you meet a doctor socialy ask them if they accept new Medicare patients; then you'll know a lot about their commitment to healing.

[CCCVDUR]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

It's getting hard to find a doctor anywhere that accepts new Medicare patients. Medicare is becoming the same as being uninsured. If you meet a doctor socialy ask them if they accept new Medicare patients; then you'll know a lot about their commitment to healing.

Hmmm.... Not the case in Seattle or Vegas - everyone there takes medicare, even from new patients. There is something odd about the Southwest Rocky Mountain states, w/ elite liberals, and elite physicians .... If Boulder physicians don't accept Medicare, that is yet another sign that the town isn't necessarily liberal, at least by our west coast standards ....

[tfox]

Originally Posted by Tom Lane

[color=Navy]The question remains, is Boulder/Denver different than Flagstaff, Albuquerque, and Santa Fe, when it comes to issues such as snobbery and welcoming newcomers.

I don't know anything about flagstaff. My parents now live in New Mexico and I have limited experience there. I'd rank Boulder as much LESS snobby than Santa Fe and MORE welcoming to outsiders, mainly because despite all the talk Boulder is not really a tourist enclave like Santa Fe but is has a very active and functioning economy with transplants there all the time. And Boulder entirely lacks the "old line" families that you find in NM that are suspicious of anyone who doesn't have roots going back centuries in Northern New Mexico. (Not to knock Santa Fe, of course -- I like that town too).

As for ABQ, the city strikes me as rather normal and very unlike Santa Fe or Boulder. I don't see much sign of snobbiness that you wouldn't see in any other mid-sized city anywhere in the country. Of course, the ABQ Academy kids and their ilk are always going to be snobby... but they're by far the exception.

[CCCVDUR]

Originally Posted by tfox

I don't know anything about flagstaff. My parents now live in New Mexico and I have limited experience there. I'd rank Boulder as much LESS snobby than Santa Fe and MORE welcoming to outsiders...............As for ABQ, the city strikes me as rather normal and very unlike Santa Fe or Boulder. I don't see much sign of snobbiness that you wouldn't see in any other mid-sized city anywhere in the country.........

Glad to hear that about Boulder vs. Santa Fe.

As for Albuquerque, I didn't know that I was living on what the locals nickname as "Snob Hill" (i.e. Nob Hill) until a few weeks before leaving! Nob Hill is a very progressive area (although not very liberal, by Seattle standards) near the University of NM.

[subsound]

Originally Posted by Tom Lane

Hmmm.... Not the case in Seattle or Vegas - everyone there takes medicare, even from new patients. There is something odd about the Southwest Rocky Mountain states, w/ elite liberals, and elite physicians .... If Boulder physicians don't accept Medicare, that is yet another sign that the town isn't necessarily liberal, at least by our west coast standards ....

Excluding private practices, all hospitals and facilities must take Medicare patients. No facility hospital in Colorado excludes Medicare or Medicaid patients. Private practices have their own rules, but follow the law.

I have worked in facilities in Colorado and now work in a facility in Oregon, all of which have the same policy of having a quota of the number of each they can see a month. Sorry to say, when private insurers average 65% of charges, Medicare averages 43% and Medicaid 35% (or APC, which is worse)...you have to set a quota or you'll go out of business (cost averages 50% of charges in total). Add into that the new DME (Durable Medical Equipment) bidding rules that came into Colorado this year, and it's even harder to make ends meet.

It's not something exclusive to Boulder, or Colorado...it's something that's happening all over. It sucks.