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Old 09-05-2013, 06:47 AM
 
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I have not ever bought ppv fights because during the Tyson years I felt the fights were scams. This fight and undercard tempts me to take the plunge.
I would definitely purchase this one.

Mayweather is the favorite, but Canelo is definitely a live dog. I'd say he's probably the best opponent since De La Hoya.

Hopefully the 2 lbs don't affect his performance.
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I think Canelo has a very good chance of scoring a stoppage within ~the first six rounds of the bout as Floyd can be a slow starter. Anything past the first half of the fight and the scales tip heavily in Mayweather's favor.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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What also not surprising is that as per usual your posts have neither flash norsubstance. Try to disparage all you like, the point remains: winning is winning, deal with it. What actually is laughable though, is that your takes are so vapid that you have to resort to the rather pathetic tactic of making silly ad hominem remarks. If knocking your opponent out demonstrates mediocrity to your mind, then there's little hope of forcing a rational discussion out of you. Pity...
Silly ad hominem remarks...you mean like referring to Pacquiao as "St. Manny"? It's funny that you refer to Rios as a tomato can but I didn't hear any criticism of Floyd's last opponent coming from you. Guerrero is no better than Rios, yet no "tomato can" remarks from Floyd's cheerleading captain.

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For one, you've got some nerve accusing anyone else of arrogance. If Floyd is arrogant, at least there is some justification for his. As far as what St. Manny did or didn't agree to, it appears that his business manager, Michael Koncz, disagrees with you. Of course, maybe you know better than he does. Manny Pacquiao Adviser Says Team Pacquiao Did Not Agree to Fully Random Testing | Bleacher Report


"If Floyd is arrogant"? Are you serious? There's no question he is arrogant. For him to say that Manny isn't even in his league while taking fights with Guerrero and Ortiz is laughable. Next you'll tell me that Adrian Broner is a class act. The link you provided states that Manny agreed to random testing up to 14 days prior to the fight. Yet that wasn't good enough for Floyd. Honestly, what sort of PED's are going to give Manny an edge less than two weeks into the fight and not be detected immediately after the fight? Here's a link where Koncz says Manny agreed to testing, you can google things to your benefit all day long. Besides, Bleacherreport is just a bunch of bloggers with very little credibility. Koncz: Door not closed on Mayweather-Pacquiao | RingTV


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Good for you that you think so. I wonder which fight will do better PPV numbers..
PPV numbers will be be high because Canelo has a bigger fan base than Floyd, and the undercard is featuring two fighters who bring their own fanbase as well. Manny's numbers may be lower but he'll pocket a bigger percentage since he won't be getting scalped by Uncle Sugar in taxes. Too bad Floyd isn't willing to fight outside his hometown like other fighters of past and present. He's got the Vegas judges right where he needs them.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Silly ad hominem remarks...you mean like referring to Pacquiao as "St. Manny"?
Um no, since I'm not actually having a discussion with Manny Pacquiao . If you're unfamiliar with the meaning of the term, feel free to Google it.

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It's funny that you refer to Rios as a tomato can but I didn't hear any criticism of Floyd's last opponent coming from you. Guerrero is no better than Rios, yet no "tomato can" remarks from Floyd's cheerleading captain.
At least The Ghost wasn't coming off of a loss. At least The Ghost was a current champion when he fought Floyd. At least The Ghost had fights at welterweight beating previously undefeated Selcuk Aydin and roughing up Andre Berto.

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"If Floyd is arrogant"? Are you serious? There's no question he is arrogant. For him to say that Manny isn't even in his league while taking fights with Guerrero and Ortiz is laughable. Next you'll tell me that Adrian Broner is a class act. The link you provided states that Manny agreed to random testing up to 14 days prior to the fight. Yet that wasn't good enough for Floyd. Honestly, what sort of PED's are going to give Manny an edge less than two weeks into the fight and not be detected immediately after the fight? Here's a link where Koncz says Manny agreed to testing, you can google things to your benefit all day long. Besides, Bleacherreport is just a bunch of bloggers with very little credibility. Koncz: Door not closed on Mayweather-Pacquiao | RingTV
Fourteen days is not unlimited testing, so I'm glad that you admit that Pacquiao in fact, did not agree to the testing that guys such as Ortiz, Alvarez, Cotto, etc. have had no qualms with. As has been said before, people play baseball, people play basketball. You don't play boxing, it's a hurt business. If Floyd wants testing up until the day of the fight to make sure that things are on the up & up, that seems like a reasonable request to me and he has the right to make it. Just because you or I may not know what drugs might give his opponent and in 14 days of usage is irrelevant since neither of us is in the right getting hit in the face. Of course, Manny also has the right to say no, which he previously has, so people can make of that what they will.

And since you don't like BR: KONCZ CONFIRMS PACQUIAO HAS NOT AGREED TO RANDOM DRUG TESTS WITH NO CUT-OFF DATE || FIGHTHYPE
MICHAEL KONCZ ADMITS: ' THERE WAS NO AGREED TESTS UP UNTIL THE FIGHT' - BoxingSocialist.com


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PPV numbers will be be high because Canelo has a bigger fan base than Floyd, and the undercard is featuring two fighters who bring their own fanbase as well. Manny's numbers may be lower but he'll pocket a bigger percentage since he won't be getting scalped by Uncle Sugar in taxes. Too bad Floyd isn't willing to fight outside his hometown like other fighters of past and present. He's got the Vegas judges right where he needs them.
Excuses, a weak conspiracy theory and even weaker accusations. When reality doesn't support you, I suppose all you have left is to start making up nonsense. As usual...

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Old 09-05-2013, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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At least The Ghost wasn't coming off of a loss. At least The Ghost was a current champion when he fought Floyd. At least The Ghost had fights at welterweight beating previously undefeated Selcuk Aydin and roughing up Andre Berto.
Yes, he beat Berto...who has proven to be a B rate fighter and the gate keeper by which Floyd feels another B rated fighter needs to get through in order to fight him. Yet he continues to insist that Pacquiao isn't in the same league. Talk about excuses...is it the testing? Is it the money? Is it the caliber of skill and worthyness? Which excuse is it today?


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Fourteen days is not unlimited testing, so I'm glad that you admit that Pacquiao in fact, did not agree to the testing that guys such as Ortiz, Alvarez, Cotto, etc. have had no qualms with. As has been said before, people play baseball, people play basketball. You don't play boxing, it's a hurt business. If Floyd wants testing up until the day of the fight to make sure that things are on the up & up, that seems like a reasonable request to me and he has the right to make it. Just because you or I may not know what drugs might give his opponent and in 14 days of usage is irrelevant since neither of us is in the right getting hit in the face. Of course, Manny also has the right to say no, which he previously has, so people can make of that what they will.

And since you don't like BR: KONCZ CONFIRMS PACQUIAO HAS NOT AGREED TO RANDOM DRUG TESTS WITH NO CUT-OFF DATE || FIGHTHYPE
MICHAEL KONCZ ADMITS: ' THERE WAS NO AGREED TESTS UP UNTIL THE FIGHT' - BoxingSocialist.com
Fourteen days is close enough. Floyd should not have been dictating additional terms to begin with. He simply looked for one excuse after another not to make the fight. It had nothing to do with PED's, it had everything to do with his crackhead uncle and father seeing something they hadn't seen in any other fighter since Floyd's days at lightweight dodging other dangerous fighters. They saw a guy who could beat Floyd and take away his precious "0". Floyd is scared, plain and simple, otherwise this fight would have happened years ago, before he suddenly "retired" when there were four prime and dangerous fighters waiting to fight him to include Manny.


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Excuses, a weak conspiracy theory and even weaker accusations. When reality doesn't support you, I suppose all you have left is to start making up nonsense. As usual...
First you quote Vin Diesel and now you post a pic of Floyd and Justin Bieber. LMFAO! I can't begin to point out the irony here. Talk about flash over substance.

I'll reserve any further comments on this thread until after the fight. Let's see if Floyd can close the show as the all-time greatest P4P fighter he claims to be.
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Old 09-05-2013, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Yes, he beat Berto...who has proven to be a B rate fighter and the gate keeper by which Floyd feels another B rated fighter needs to get through in order to fight him. Yet he continues to insist that Pacquiao isn't in the same league. Talk about excuses...is it the testing? Is it the money? Is it the caliber of skill and worthyness? Which excuse is it today?
Blah, blah blah. The Ghost still better than Rios, plain and simple.

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Fourteen days is close enough. Floyd should not have been dictating additional terms to begin with. He simply looked for one excuse after another not to make the fight. It had nothing to do with PED's, it had everything to do with his crackhead uncle and father seeing something they hadn't seen in any other fighter since Floyd's days at lightweight dodging other dangerous fighters. They saw a guy who could beat Floyd and take away his precious "0". Floyd is scared, plain and simple, otherwise this fight would have happened years ago, before he suddenly "retired" when there were four prime and dangerous fighters waiting to fight him to include Manny.
Sorry, but it's not for you to decide that 14 days is 'close enough'. When you're in the ring getting your head beat in by some PED popper then you can decide what's acceptable and what's 'close enough'. Canelo doesn't have a problem with the testing regimen. Ortiz didn't,Ghost didn't. I guess they didn't have anything to hide...

Manny was scared of being outed plain and simple, otherwise this fight would have happened years ago. Wow, tossing out B.S. is so much fun; I see why you like it so much.




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First you quote Vin Diesel and now you post a pic of Floyd and Justin Bieber. LMFAO! I can't begin to point out the irony here. Talk about flash over substance.
And sadly your posts still have neither. Not to mention you continue to prove the message in the picture to be 110% accurate!


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Old 09-12-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Orange, California
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I'd love to see Canelo hand Money May his first loss. But if Canelo wasn't able to knock out an old Shane Mosley, I don't see how he knocks out Floyd. And while Alvarez beat Mosley handily on the scorecards I think Mayweather can potshot and shoulder roll enough to win at least seven of the rounds. Mayweather by decision. Canelo takes a few rounds though.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:12 AM
 
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Oh my, the school bell is ringing. Almost time for young Canelo to find a seat in Professor Mayweather's classroom. I hear Professor Mayweather is an excellent teacher, but his course in Advanced Boxing can be difficult and painful for new students. Better tell mommy to put a first aid kit in your lunchbox before you leave Canelo...



PRETTY BOY RULES!!!
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I'd love to see Canelo hand Money May his first loss. But if Canelo wasn't able to knock out an old Shane Mosley, I don't see how he knocks out Floyd. And while Alvarez beat Mosley handily on the scorecards I think Mayweather can potshot and shoulder roll enough to win at least seven of the rounds. Mayweather by decision. Canelo takes a few rounds though.
Just for the record, no one has been able to knock out Shane Mosley yet in any of his fights. That list includes Pacquiao, Cotto, Mayweather, and De La Hoya.

I think you're probably right but the only times I've ever really seen Mayweather give up rounds is when he fights a stronger, hard body puncher like Jose Luis Castillo I and De La Hoya. If Canelo can manage his endurance in the ring and keep on applying the pressure, I would give him more than a puncher's chance of winning tomorrow.
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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The following pains me because i dont want it to happen.

Mayweather will steamroll Canelo. I sincerely hope that i am wrong but i doubt it. Part of the reason for my prediction is the lack of competiton and also his fight with Trout. Trout was beating him until the knockdown. Mayweather is smart, he will learn from Trout and like i said steamroll the young man.
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