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Old 04-03-2016, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You say that in Florida one can slap on any unexpired plates and drive off. Are you saying this is legal or just that it is easy?

Easy but definetly not legal...
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Old 04-03-2016, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Merritt Island, FL
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And my point was that in most states you must present proof of insurance to the state before you are issued license plates. California, according to you, does not have that safeguard. You say that in Florida one can slap on any unexpired plates and drive off. Are you saying this is legal or just that it is easy?


I'm not a fan of big government but believe in required insurance and safeguards to help assure it exists.
This isn't true. When it comes to liability, the vehicle isn't insured... the driver is. Otherwise, they'd not bother with your driving record. I did not have to show proof of insurance in FL to get my plates, but I did have to show it to drive the car off the lot.

And yes, it is that easy.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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This isn't true. When it comes to liability, the vehicle isn't insured... the driver is. Otherwise, they'd not bother with your driving record. I did not have to show proof of insurance in FL to get my plates, but I did have to show it to drive the car off the lot.

And yes, it is that easy.
If you bought it at a dealer and you owned a car before, you had an insurance card that you had to show to the dealer, your license, and you either drive out of the dealers with the plate from your car you traded in that the dealer does the transfer papers right at the dealers for or with a brand new plate that is issued right at the dealer. We did not even get a temporary plate with our last new car, the dealer has the plates and acts as an agent of the state. Your insurance is good on the new car to drive it home and I think 30 days to get it transferred and updated for the new car.

Buying from an individual and it being the first car owned is the problem here. Until he gets into buy plates/register it which requires a driver's license and insurance and all the other proofs needed now, it has to be moved on a trailer. unless you can get the seller to drive it to his house before the transfer of ownership and do thetransfer there. For the last car we sold we just met the buyer at the court house and did the transfer there to get it out of our names. One car we sold years ago, the new owner did not do the registration and 5 years later we got a call from Miami PD because the VIN was traced to our owning it. Won't be trusting anyone to transfer ownership on their own again.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Fargo ND
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just get a temporary tag (license plate)

https://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/forms/BTR/83091.pdf
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Fargo ND
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If you bought it at a dealer and you owned a car before, you had an insurance card that you had to show to the dealer, your license, and you either drive out of the dealers with the plate from your car you traded in that the dealer does the transfer papers right at the dealers for or with a brand new plate that is issued right at the dealer. We did not even get a temporary plate with our last new car, the dealer has the plates and acts as an agent of the state. Your insurance is good on the new car to drive it home and I think 30 days to get it transferred and updated for the new car.

Buying from an individual and it being the first car owned is the problem here. Until he gets into buy plates/register it which requires a driver's license and insurance and all the other proofs needed now, it has to be moved on a trailer. unless you can get the seller to drive it to his house before the transfer of ownership and do thetransfer there. For the last car we sold we just met the buyer at the court house and did the transfer there to get it out of our names. One car we sold years ago, the new owner did not do the registration and 5 years later we got a call from Miami PD because the VIN was traced to our owning it. Won't be trusting anyone to transfer ownership on their own again.
this is un-necessary

It does not matter if the buyer ever registers or titles the car..... he could be using it for parts

you as the seller were supposed to fill in the blanks on the back of your registration and mail it within 5 working days

this would have taken the car out of your name
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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this is un-necessary

It does not matter if the buyer ever registers or titles the car..... he could be using it for parts

you as the seller were supposed to fill in the blanks on the back of your registration and mail it within 5 working days

this would have taken the car out of your name
We did sign it, but they needed to bring it in to register it. Nothing for us to send it. Title turned over to new owner who paid in full. Until they register there is still the link to you with the VIN number. Basically the police were following the ownership of the car since it was used in a crime.
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Fargo ND
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We did sign it, but they needed to bring it in to register it. Nothing for us to send it. Title turned over to new owner who paid in full. Until they register there is still the link to you with the VIN number. Basically the police were following the ownership of the car since it was used in a crime.

that's not the procedure, they didn't need to bring it, you needed to mail it

the DMV does not expect or desire the buyer to walk in with your registration (title yes Reg. no)

why would the buyer think he would need your now invalid registration?

you must retain your Reg Cert and plate after sale, then mail in the reg with back completed and surrender the plate if requested

"Protect Yourself!

Have you sold your motor vehicle, mobile home or vessel? Has the purchaser applied for a transfer of title into their name? If not, this can present legal issues for you, the seller. These problems can be avoided by filing a form HSMV 82050, Notice of Sale. Section 319. 22(2), Florida Statutes, provides that by filing this form, you can avoid any civil liability for the operation of the sold motor vehicle, vessel or mobile home. In addition to filing this form, we suggest you keep a copy of your bill of sale (we suggest it be notarized), certificate of title or other type of transaction document showing it was sold. "

https://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/forms/BTR/82050.pdf

if you lost or accidentally gave away your registration you could have filled out this form
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:06 PM
 
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this is un-necessary

It does not matter if the buyer ever registers or titles the car..... he could be using it for parts

you as the seller were supposed to fill in the blanks on the back of your registration and mail it within 5 working days

this would have taken the car out of your name
oops we signed the title and they didn't bring it in with them to make sure it got registered in their name .....we transferred the tags to the kids car a couple days later. Years later we got the call from Miami when the car we sold was used in a crime down there.
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