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Old 06-03-2018, 03:29 AM
 
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So meditation is basically the same thing as prayer. Only Buddhist don't call it a prayer because they're not praying to anything and they're not praying for anything.
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Old 06-03-2018, 03:50 AM
 
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On July 9, 1958, a large earthquake caused a massive chunk of mountain to dislodge and fall 3,000 feet into a narrow inlet of Lituya Bay, Alaska creating a mega tsunami with a wave height of approximately 100 feet.

Amazingly there were survivors of the event, notably Howard Ulrich and his 8 year old son, Sonny, on their fishing boat, the Edrie.

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“He threw me a life preserver and he said, ‘son, it’s time to start praying!’”

Sonny Ulrich (S.U.)

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Old 06-03-2018, 06:09 AM
 
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I use the words 'being still, in silence'...when talking to Christians because for some
reason they get riled up about the word meditation...they will even bring up 'satan'!

Part of my start up when sitting in meditation is to 'talk' internally to 'whatever' it turns out to be...God, my Higher Self, the Powers that Be, the All That Is, the Divine Presence....
to center myself...set my intention.

Notice I hesitate saying "pray' as to not
upset a Buddhist or an atheist even...they might relate to the Higher Self!
My input...sorry if it seems off topic.
I love any topic that brings up meditation...or sitting in stillness for a long time.
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Old 06-03-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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I use the words 'being still, in silence'...when talking to Christians because for some
reason they get riled up about the word meditation...they will even bring up 'satan'!

Part of my start up when sitting in meditation is to 'talk' internally to 'whatever' it turns out to be...God, my Higher Self, the Powers that Be, the All That Is, the Divine Presence....
to center myself...set my intention.

Notice I hesitate saying "pray' as to not
upset a Buddhist or an atheist even...they might relate to the Higher Self!
My input...sorry if it seems off topic.
I love any topic that brings up meditation...or sitting in stillness for a long time.
Yes, while I think anyone can meditate, meditating in Buddhism would be different than meditating in christianity.
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Old 06-03-2018, 04:34 PM
 
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So meditation is basically the same thing as prayer. Only Buddhist don't call it a prayer because they're not praying to anything and they're not praying for anything.
This is false.
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Old 06-03-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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This is false.
Just for the sake of the discussion, could you be more specific?
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Old 06-03-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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Correct. True meditation and true prayer are interchangeable terms for same state.

Yes, Phetaroi, another categorical statement. But it is what it is.

Key word is - state, though.
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Old 06-03-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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Once again, Urkrkoz speaks and everyone is just supposed to agree. Perhaps we should worship Ukrkoz.

True meditation is when you focus on your thoughts.
In prayer you are asking for something or thanking for something.
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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it's a conversation, it's a relationship with the Divine.
some say prayer is talking,
meditation is listening for response.

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Old 06-04-2018, 06:28 AM
 
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My thoughts...Prayer is an aspect of meditation. I think of meditation as connection with the Divine, within and around each of us. Prayer is asking that Divine Infinite Intelligence for energetic help for health or wellbeing. Meditation without prayer is enjoying and growing in the connection, and gaining insight, information and growth.
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