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Buffalo Zoo came off the list the next year but is known for having some of the worst animal habitats in the country. While it was built in an era where that was the norm it should have been torn down back when it was proposed to relocate (10 years ago). Fine if people want a zoo, making it a petting zoo with small animals and if people want a large animal zoo build something remotely large enough in all the vacant land in Buffalo (can you have a waterfront zoo?)
Buffalo Zoo came off the list the next year but is known for having some of the worst animal habitats in the country. While it was built in an era where that was the norm it should have been torn down back when it was proposed to relocate (10 years ago). Fine if people want a zoo, making it a petting zoo with small animals and if people want a large animal zoo build something remotely large enough in all the vacant land in Buffalo (can you have a waterfront zoo?)
A part of that could be due to the fact that it is one of the oldest zoos in the US(3rd oldest behind Philadelphia and NYC's Central Park Zoo). Maybe a relocation would be good, but I would think that expansion would be the way most people would go.
A sidenote, the 5th oldest zoo in the US is Binghamton's Ross Park Zoo. Interesting......
CK i don't know if you've ever seen the Buff zoo but there really isn't room for expansion unless they took over the park which in itself is one of the better places in the city. There's an element in Buffalo that oppose any change. Did anyone really believe Bass Pro could be the anchor of a waterfront development? But you could have a massive amount of space dedicated to parks, zoos (which I oppose on moral grounds but accept that most people enjoy them) recreation. Once the area became an attraction retailers would swarm and not need to be begged to come. My vision for the waterfront:
1) parks- including zoos, dog park, biking, walking, crosscountry skiing and snowshoe trails
2) attractions- indoor/outdoor waterpark (run by county city, revenues stay with gov't)
3) SAFE beach development
4) board controls what is built. Meaning use some discrimination to determine what type of business is developed.
5) outdoor amphitheater for concerts
Who wants to see a bunch of big box retailers open up, and in 10 years there's another area with a bunch of neglected empty buildings. Turning the waterfront into an attraction could draw more people to an area. Bass Pro, Best Buy and Walmart are not an attraction.
CK i don't know if you've ever seen the Buff zoo but there really isn't room for expansion unless they took over the park which in itself is one of the better places in the city. There's an element in Buffalo that oppose any change. Did anyone really believe Bass Pro could be the anchor of a waterfront development? But you could have a massive amount of space dedicated to parks, zoos (which I oppose on moral grounds but accept that most people enjoy them) recreation. Once the area became an attraction retailers would swarm and not need to be begged to come. My vision for the waterfront:
1) parks- including zoos, dog park, biking, walking, crosscountry skiing and snowshoe trails
2) attractions- indoor/outdoor waterpark (run by county city, revenues stay with gov't)
3) SAFE beach development
4) board controls what is built. Meaning use some discrimination to determine what type of business is developed.
5) outdoor amphitheater for concerts
Who wants to see a bunch of big box retailers open up, and in 10 years there's another area with a bunch of neglected empty buildings. Turning the waterfront into an attraction could draw more people to an area. Bass Pro, Best Buy and Walmart are not an attraction.
Oh my, this is the second time Ive been in total agreement with you today. I think I need to step away from the keyboard for awhile
When was the last time you were at the zoo? They have spent over $50 million on upgrades over the past 5 years. The undergound sea lion tanks are great are the Tropical Rain Forest.The new petting zoo in the canal era barn that was moved to the zoo this year from Niagara County is awesome for the kids.
It the Area!! The area has changed! If they spend several million dollars to deport the elements and to redevelop the Neighborhoods south of the park then it would be ok. They should remove the BasketBall hoops and Sitting Benches on the south end and then Maybe and only maybe would the park return to its height and glory of Marlin Perkins
"deport the elememts" what does that mean? I hope not what I think. Get rid of the basketball hoops? The park is for the residents of the city. Those basketball hoops are much used and much loved. Just because it's not your scene doesn't mean it should go away.
"deport the elememts" what does that mean? I hope not what I think. Get rid of the basketball hoops? The park is for the residents of the city. Those basketball hoops are much used and much loved. Just because it's not your scene doesn't mean it should go away.
CK i don't know if you've ever seen the Buff zoo but there really isn't room for expansion unless they took over the park which in itself is one of the better places in the city. There's an element in Buffalo that oppose any change. Did anyone really believe Bass Pro could be the anchor of a waterfront development? But you could have a massive amount of space dedicated to parks, zoos (which I oppose on moral grounds but accept that most people enjoy them) recreation. Once the area became an attraction retailers would swarm and not need to be begged to come. My vision for the waterfront:
1) parks- including zoos, dog park, biking, walking, crosscountry skiing and snowshoe trails
2) attractions- indoor/outdoor waterpark (run by county city, revenues stay with gov't)
3) SAFE beach development
4) board controls what is built. Meaning use some discrimination to determine what type of business is developed.
5) outdoor amphitheater for concerts
Who wants to see a bunch of big box retailers open up, and in 10 years there's another area with a bunch of neglected empty buildings. Turning the waterfront into an attraction could draw more people to an area. Bass Pro, Best Buy and Walmart are not an attraction.
Good points and ideas. Maybe something like this could even work, if planned right: Onondaga County Parks, OLP (http://onondagacountyparks.com/olp - broken link)
Oh my, this is the second time Ive been in total agreement with you today. I think I need to step away from the keyboard for awhile
I agree with you both, however; big box stores do not have to LOOK like big box stores. Just take a look around NYC and you will find BB&B and the like all over the place and you wouldn't even know they were there unless someone pointed them out to you.
Buffalo has 4 beautiful seasons and the lake to build upon. It should learn from Chicago, but not try to 'be' another Chicago.
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