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Old 11-26-2011, 07:24 PM
 
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So, I hear a lot of smack talk from Rochesterians saying that "Both of our metros are the same size!" But here are a few facts to consider;
-If Rochester and Buffalo would split Wyoming, Genesee, and Orleans counties, about 100,000 people would be added to Buffalo and 100,000 would be subtracted from Rochester. So already, Buffalo is 200,000 LARGER.

-If the nNagara peninsula was counted in our metro (Like how Windsor is counted with Detroit) that would add about 900,000 people to Buffalo! So Buffalo is 1.1 MILLION people LARGER than Rochester.

So there you go, now you Rochesterians better not say "We have a larger economy!" because again, if canada is added, we would have a WAY larger economy!

Buffalo: 2-2.2 Million
Rochester: .9-1 Million
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:08 PM
 
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And your point is?
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:09 PM
 
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But Windsor isn't counted with Detroit, and the Niagara peninsula isn't counted with Buffalo. They never will be therefore aren't part of the metropolitan areas. The fact is Rochester's metro is almost the same size as Buffalo's and isn't shrinking unlike the latter. Rochester will be larger than Buffalo in ~10 years. Deal with it.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:41 PM
 
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Per the 2000 census the Buffalo Urbanized area is the nations 38th largest with a population of about 1 million. Rochester is number 53 with population of 694,00". That is why Buffalo feels like a bigger city- it is!

Source US Census Bureau;

USA Urbanized Areas Over 500,000: 2000 Rankings
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:53 AM
 
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No offense to anyone but is this the dumbest thread ever??
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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Per the 2000 census the Buffalo Urbanized area is the nations 38th largest with a population of about 1 million. Rochester is number 53 with population of 694,00". That is why Buffalo feels like a bigger city- it is!

Source US Census Bureau;

USA Urbanized Areas Over 500,000: 2000 Rankings
It will be 2012 in 35 days. How about the 2010 census which puts Buffalo at #50 and Rochester #51?
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:01 PM
 
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Maybe not the dumbest thread ever (there is a ton of competition here), but it probably makes the top 20. Oh and by the way, my city is better than yours.
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:30 PM
 
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I'd really like to see the two regions forge closer ties and gain some political clout with over 2 million people.
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Old 11-27-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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It will be 2012 in 35 days. How about the 2010 census which puts Buffalo at #50 and Rochester #51?
It doesn't you are referring to MSA's which are full counties this census designation of urbanized areas is composed of the urban areas of each city which is why both are shown with under a million people. They only go over a million when you add far flung counties. 2 counties for Buffalo and 5 for Rochester. The Census Urbanized area is the best Federal data available for the relative populations of US urban areas. The calculations based upon the 2010 census will not be available until early next year. Based upon pozpulation stagnation for both areas the gap will not change significantly.
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:19 PM
 
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I'd really like to see the two regions forge closer ties and gain some political clout with over 2 million people.
+1

Throw Syracuse and Utica/Rome into the mix and it would be even better!

It's stupid and pointless to argue over who is bigger or better off economically when we are all getting the shaft when it comes to state-wide policies that are made to benefit downstate/NYC with little to no consideration of Upstate.
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