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Some woman on Channel 9 just said so...she runs a soup kitchen at a church in the city...how do they determine or define "poor" anyway? Number of unemployed? welfare? food stamps used per week?
By the way..anybody know...How dose one qualify for food stamps? I was talking to my friend that works at Wegmans the other day and she said I would be surprised at who uses them. She said she's seen LAWYERS use them. I thought you had to be destitute. Apparently not.
Apparently a community survey organization generates inter-census income data. For cities of 250,000 or more they found the # of people living below poverty level and used that percentage to rank cities. Here is the complete list from business first.
1. Detroit, 33.3% in poverty
2. Cleveland, 30.5% in poverty
3. Buffalo, 30.3% in poverty
4. Newark, 26.1% in poverty
5. Miami, 25.6% in poverty
6. Fresno, 25.5% in poverty
7. Cincinnati, 25.1% in poverty
8. Toledo, 24.7% in poverty
9. El Paso, 24.3% in poverty
10. Philadelphia, 24.1% in poverty
11. Milwaukee, 23.4% in poverty
12. Memphis, 23.1% in poverty
13. St. Louis, 22.9% in poverty
14. Dallas, 22.6% in poverty
14. New Orleans, 22.6% in poverty
16. Atlanta, 22.4% in poverty
17. Stockton, Calif., 21.6% in poverty
18. Minneapolis, 21.3% in poverty
19. Pittsburgh, 21.2% in poverty
20. Tucson, 20.9% in poverty
21. Chicago, 20.6% in poverty
22. Columbus, Ohio, 20.1% in poverty
23. Long Beach, Calif., 19.8% in poverty
24. Houston, 19.5% in poverty
25. Los Angeles, 19.4% in poverty
26. Baltimore, 19.3% in poverty
27. San Antonio, 19.2% in poverty
28. Phoenix, 18.9% in poverty
29. Boston, 18.7% in poverty
30. Denver, 18.4% in poverty
30. St. Paul, 18.4% in poverty
32. Tulsa, 18.3% in poverty
33. New York City, 18.2% in poverty
34. Tampa, 17.8% in poverty
35. Santa Ana, Calif., 17.6% in poverty
36. Nashville, 17.5% in poverty
36. Oakland, 17.5% in poverty
38. Corpus Christi, Texas, 17.2% in poverty
38. Washington, 17.2% in poverty
40. Austin, 17.0% in poverty
41. Bakersfield, Calif., 16.7% in poverty
42. Fort Worth, 16.6% in poverty
43. Indianapolis, 16.4% in poverty
43. Kansas City, 16.4% in poverty
43. Oklahoma City, 16.4% in poverty
46. Greensboro, 16.2% in poverty
47. Louisville, 16.1% in poverty
47. Sacramento, 16.1% in poverty
49. Lexington, Ky., 15.6% in poverty
50. Aurora, Colo., 15.4% in poverty
51. Albuquerque, 15.0% in poverty
51. Omaha, 15.0% in poverty
53. Portland, Ore., 14.4% in poverty
53. San Diego, 14.4% in poverty
55. Glendale, Ariz., 14.3% in poverty
55. Wichita, 14.3% in poverty
57. Fort Wayne, Ind., 13.5% in poverty
57. Riverside, Calif., 13.5% in poverty
59. Raleigh, 13.3% in poverty
60. Anaheim, Calif., 13.1% in poverty
61. Las Vegas, 12.6% in poverty
62. Charlotte, 12.0% in poverty
63. Jacksonville, 11.9% in poverty
64. Colorado Springs, 11.8% in poverty
64. Lincoln, Neb., 11.8% in poverty
66. Mesa, Ariz., 11.7% in poverty
67. Seattle, 11.6% in poverty
68. Arlington, Texas, 11.3% in poverty
69. San Francisco, 11.0% in poverty
70. Honolulu, 10.8% in poverty
71. San Jose, 8.9% in poverty
72. Henderson, Nev., 7.5% in poverty
73. Plano, Texas, 6.7% in poverty
74. Virginia Beach, 6.5% in poverty
75. Anchorage, 6.4% in poverty
So there you have it. Food stamps are based on income. So if a lawyer is earning 35K and has three kids then they likely qualify for food stamps. iirc the income guidelines are fairly generous for food stamps. Just one more way the government subsidizes private industry.
Apparently a community survey organization generates inter-census income data. For cities of 250,000 or more they found the # of people living below poverty level and used that percentage to rank cities. Here is the complete list from business first.
1. Detroit, 33.3% in poverty
2. Cleveland, 30.5% in poverty
3. Buffalo, 30.3% in poverty
4. Newark, 26.1% in poverty
5. Miami, 25.6% in poverty
6. Fresno, 25.5% in poverty
7. Cincinnati, 25.1% in poverty
8. Toledo, 24.7% in poverty
9. El Paso, 24.3% in poverty
10. Philadelphia, 24.1% in poverty
11. Milwaukee, 23.4% in poverty
12. Memphis, 23.1% in poverty
13. St. Louis, 22.9% in poverty
14. Dallas, 22.6% in poverty
14. New Orleans, 22.6% in poverty
16. Atlanta, 22.4% in poverty
17. Stockton, Calif., 21.6% in poverty
18. Minneapolis, 21.3% in poverty
19. Pittsburgh, 21.2% in poverty
20. Tucson, 20.9% in poverty
21. Chicago, 20.6% in poverty
22. Columbus, Ohio, 20.1% in poverty
23. Long Beach, Calif., 19.8% in poverty
24. Houston, 19.5% in poverty
25. Los Angeles, 19.4% in poverty
26. Baltimore, 19.3% in poverty
27. San Antonio, 19.2% in poverty
28. Phoenix, 18.9% in poverty
29. Boston, 18.7% in poverty
30. Denver, 18.4% in poverty
30. St. Paul, 18.4% in poverty
32. Tulsa, 18.3% in poverty
33. New York City, 18.2% in poverty
34. Tampa, 17.8% in poverty
35. Santa Ana, Calif., 17.6% in poverty
36. Nashville, 17.5% in poverty
36. Oakland, 17.5% in poverty
38. Corpus Christi, Texas, 17.2% in poverty
38. Washington, 17.2% in poverty
40. Austin, 17.0% in poverty
41. Bakersfield, Calif., 16.7% in poverty
42. Fort Worth, 16.6% in poverty
43. Indianapolis, 16.4% in poverty
43. Kansas City, 16.4% in poverty
43. Oklahoma City, 16.4% in poverty
46. Greensboro, 16.2% in poverty
47. Louisville, 16.1% in poverty
47. Sacramento, 16.1% in poverty
49. Lexington, Ky., 15.6% in poverty
50. Aurora, Colo., 15.4% in poverty
51. Albuquerque, 15.0% in poverty
51. Omaha, 15.0% in poverty
53. Portland, Ore., 14.4% in poverty
53. San Diego, 14.4% in poverty
55. Glendale, Ariz., 14.3% in poverty
55. Wichita, 14.3% in poverty
57. Fort Wayne, Ind., 13.5% in poverty
57. Riverside, Calif., 13.5% in poverty
59. Raleigh, 13.3% in poverty
60. Anaheim, Calif., 13.1% in poverty
61. Las Vegas, 12.6% in poverty
62. Charlotte, 12.0% in poverty
63. Jacksonville, 11.9% in poverty
64. Colorado Springs, 11.8% in poverty
64. Lincoln, Neb., 11.8% in poverty
66. Mesa, Ariz., 11.7% in poverty
67. Seattle, 11.6% in poverty
68. Arlington, Texas, 11.3% in poverty
69. San Francisco, 11.0% in poverty
70. Honolulu, 10.8% in poverty
71. San Jose, 8.9% in poverty
72. Henderson, Nev., 7.5% in poverty
73. Plano, Texas, 6.7% in poverty
74. Virginia Beach, 6.5% in poverty
75. Anchorage, 6.4% in poverty
So there you have it. Food stamps are based on income. So if a lawyer is earning 35K and has three kids then they likely qualify for food stamps. iirc the income guidelines are fairly generous for food stamps. Just one more way the government subsidizes private industry.
Exactly! Assistance doesn't equal not working, but is based on requirements and includes many people that actually work. In fact, many people that qualify for certain forms of assistance don't even take it. That happens more often than people realize. Here's an example and look at the bottom of the Obtaining Custody column: Grandparents raising grandchildren part of a national trend*|*The Stand
Apparently a community survey organization generates inter-census income data. For cities of 250,000 or more they found the # of people living below poverty level and used that percentage to rank cities. Here is the complete list from business first.
1. Detroit, 33.3% in poverty
2. Cleveland, 30.5% in poverty
3. Buffalo, 30.3% in poverty
4. Newark, 26.1% in poverty
5. Miami, 25.6% in poverty
6. Fresno, 25.5% in poverty
7. Cincinnati, 25.1% in poverty
8. Toledo, 24.7% in poverty
9. El Paso, 24.3% in poverty
10. Philadelphia, 24.1% in poverty
11. Milwaukee, 23.4% in poverty
12. Memphis, 23.1% in poverty
13. St. Louis, 22.9% in poverty
14. Dallas, 22.6% in poverty
14. New Orleans, 22.6% in poverty
16. Atlanta, 22.4% in poverty
17. Stockton, Calif., 21.6% in poverty
18. Minneapolis, 21.3% in poverty
19. Pittsburgh, 21.2% in poverty
20. Tucson, 20.9% in poverty
21. Chicago, 20.6% in poverty
22. Columbus, Ohio, 20.1% in poverty
23. Long Beach, Calif., 19.8% in poverty
24. Houston, 19.5% in poverty
25. Los Angeles, 19.4% in poverty
26. Baltimore, 19.3% in poverty
27. San Antonio, 19.2% in poverty
28. Phoenix, 18.9% in poverty
29. Boston, 18.7% in poverty
30. Denver, 18.4% in poverty
30. St. Paul, 18.4% in poverty
32. Tulsa, 18.3% in poverty
33. New York City, 18.2% in poverty
34. Tampa, 17.8% in poverty
35. Santa Ana, Calif., 17.6% in poverty
36. Nashville, 17.5% in poverty
36. Oakland, 17.5% in poverty
38. Corpus Christi, Texas, 17.2% in poverty
38. Washington, 17.2% in poverty
40. Austin, 17.0% in poverty
41. Bakersfield, Calif., 16.7% in poverty
42. Fort Worth, 16.6% in poverty
43. Indianapolis, 16.4% in poverty
43. Kansas City, 16.4% in poverty
43. Oklahoma City, 16.4% in poverty
46. Greensboro, 16.2% in poverty
47. Louisville, 16.1% in poverty
47. Sacramento, 16.1% in poverty
49. Lexington, Ky., 15.6% in poverty
50. Aurora, Colo., 15.4% in poverty
51. Albuquerque, 15.0% in poverty
51. Omaha, 15.0% in poverty
53. Portland, Ore., 14.4% in poverty
53. San Diego, 14.4% in poverty
55. Glendale, Ariz., 14.3% in poverty
55. Wichita, 14.3% in poverty
57. Fort Wayne, Ind., 13.5% in poverty
57. Riverside, Calif., 13.5% in poverty
59. Raleigh, 13.3% in poverty
60. Anaheim, Calif., 13.1% in poverty
61. Las Vegas, 12.6% in poverty
62. Charlotte, 12.0% in poverty
63. Jacksonville, 11.9% in poverty
64. Colorado Springs, 11.8% in poverty
64. Lincoln, Neb., 11.8% in poverty
66. Mesa, Ariz., 11.7% in poverty
67. Seattle, 11.6% in poverty
68. Arlington, Texas, 11.3% in poverty
69. San Francisco, 11.0% in poverty
70. Honolulu, 10.8% in poverty
71. San Jose, 8.9% in poverty
72. Henderson, Nev., 7.5% in poverty
73. Plano, Texas, 6.7% in poverty
74. Virginia Beach, 6.5% in poverty
75. Anchorage, 6.4% in poverty
So there you have it. Food stamps are based on income. So if a lawyer is earning 35K and has three kids then they likely qualify for food stamps. iirc the income guidelines are fairly generous for food stamps. Just one more way the government subsidizes private industry.
Whether you consider Buffalo "3rd poorest" or not depends on how it is measured. Buffalo could be considered "3rd", "15th", "45th", or about average for the US depending on what regions it is measured against, and whether you define "Buffalo" as city, county, or metro.
To get a broader idea, I expanded the list to include all cities over 125k in order to compare other cities in NYS:
1. Ponce zona urbana, Puerto Rico 46.7
2. San Juan zona urbana, Puerto Rico 39.3
3. Detroit city, Michigan 36.4
4. Cleveland city, Ohio 35.0
5. Bayamón zona urbana, Puerto Rico 33.4
6. Brownsville city, Texas 33.3
7. Syracuse city, New York 31.7
8. Laredo city, Texas 30.9
9. Dayton city, Ohio 30.9
10. Waco city, Texas 30.9
11. Paterson city, New Jersey 30.5
12. Rochester city, New York 30.5
13. San Bernardino city, California 29.9
14. Tallahassee city, Florida 29.9
15. Buffalo city, New York 28.8
16. McAllen city, Texas 28.7
17. Birmingham city, Alabama 27.8
18. Jackson city, Mississippi 27.8
19. Springfield city, Massachusetts 27.1
20. Milwaukee city, Wisconsin 27.0
21. Rockford city, Illinois 26.9
21. St. Louis city, Missouri 26.7
22. Chattanooga city, Tennessee 26.6
23. Miami city, Florida 26.5
24. Memphis city, Tennessee 26.2
25. Carolina zona urbana, Puerto Rico 26.1
26. Cincinnati city, Ohio 25.7
27. Philadelphia city, Pennsylvania 25.0
28. Akron city, Ohio 24.6
29. Knoxville city, Tennessee 24.4
30. Springfield city, Missouri 24.3
31. Baton Rouge city, Louisiana 24.3
32. Grand Rapids city, Michigan 24.1
33. Richmond city, Virginia 23.9
34. Newark city, New Jersey 23.9
35. Toledo city, Ohio 23.8
36. New Orleans city, Louisiana 23.8
37. Tucson city, Arizona 23.4
38. Dallas city, Texas 23.2
39. Pittsburgh city, Pennsylvania 23.1
40. Kansas City city, Kansas 22.8
41. Pasadena city, Texas 22.7
42. Fresno city, California 22.7
43. Minneapolis city, Minnesota 22.6
44. St. Paul city, Minnesota 22.6
45. Columbus city, Ohio 22.6
46. El Paso city, Texas 22.6
47. Salinas city, California 22.5
48. Atlanta city, Georgia 22.5
49. Augusta-Richmond County consolidated government (balance), Georgia 22.4
50. Providence city, Rhode Island 22.4
If you include all cities over 50k, then buffalo comes in 46th.
Then, since while poverty as a percentage may be relevant from an economic perspective, the actual number of people in poverty in a given area reflects on the overall needs and impact to the community. A city larger than Buffalo, even with a smaller percent of people in poverty may show much greater geographical impacts (blight, etc) even though as a whole the region is "richer." The "booming" Houston area has many hundreds of thousands more poor people, most living in concentrated areas, than the city of Buffalo.
1. New York city, New York 1,546,046
2. Los Angeles city, California 744,567
3. Chicago city, Illinois 603,218
4. Houston city, Texas 459,355
5. Philadelphia city, Pennsylvania 374,226
6. Phoenix city, Arizona 331,893
7. Detroit city, Michigan 326,764
8. Dallas city, Texas 295,464
9. San Antonio city, Texas 261,066
10. San Diego city, California 181,891
11. Memphis city, Tennessee 173,343
12. Columbus city, Ohio 170,889
13. Indianapolis city (balance), Indiana 159,734
14. Milwaukee city, Wisconsin 158,245
15. San Juan zona urbana, Puerto Rico 155,720
16. Cleveland city, Ohio 146,122
17. Austin city, Texas 142,930
18. El Paso city, Texas 138,368
19. Fort Worth city, Texas 136,577
20. Baltimore city, Maryland 129,796
21. Jacksonville city, Florida 124,302
22. Tucson city, Arizona 123,562
23. Atlanta city, Georgia 116,092
24. Denver city, Colorado 114,053
25. Miami city, Florida 112,141
26. San Jose city, California 109,826
27. Fresno city, California 106,934
28. Charlotte city, North Carolina 105,805
29. Washington city, District of Columbia 104,901
30. Boston city, Massachusetts 103,197
31. Nashville-Davidson metropolitan government (balance), Tennessee 101,004
32. Oklahoma City city, Oklahoma 99,516
33. Louisville/Jefferson County metro government (balance), Kentucky 97,545
34. San Francisco city, California 93,644
35. St. Louis city, Missouri 92,032
36. Portland city, Oregon 88,904
37. Sacramento city, California 87,870
38. Long Beach city, California 87,465
39. Albuquerque city, New Mexico 86,771
40. Minneapolis city, Minnesota 83,562
41. Las Vegas city, Nevada 83,261
42. New Orleans city, Louisiana 82,469
43. Cincinnati city, Ohio 81,919
44. Kansas City city, Missouri 79,853
45. Buffalo city, New York 75,259
46. Tulsa city, Oklahoma 74,459
47. Toledo city, Ohio 73,755
48. Oakland city, California 69,706
49. Laredo city, Texas 69,358
50. Ponce zona urbana, Puerto Rico 66,805
And finally, I was looking to find a more regional measure of poverty, rather than the more limiting city data. The census has county data by state, and I linked an interactive map:
Erie County shows a rate of 13.5%, which is just slightly higher than the national median of 13.2%. (Harris County Texas (Houston area) has, by comparison, 15.3% poverty).
Whether you consider Buffalo "3rd poorest" or not depends on how it is measured. Buffalo could be considered "3rd", "15th", "45th", or about average for the US depending on what regions it is measured against, and whether you define "Buffalo" as city, county, or metro.
To get a broader idea, I expanded the list to include all cities over 125k in order to compare other cities in NYS:
1. Ponce zona urbana, Puerto Rico 46.7
2. San Juan zona urbana, Puerto Rico 39.3
3. Detroit city, Michigan 36.4
4. Cleveland city, Ohio 35.0
5. Bayamón zona urbana, Puerto Rico 33.4
6. Brownsville city, Texas 33.3
7. Syracuse city, New York 31.7
8. Laredo city, Texas 30.9
9. Dayton city, Ohio 30.9
10. Waco city, Texas 30.9
11. Paterson city, New Jersey 30.5
12. Rochester city, New York 30.5
13. San Bernardino city, California 29.9
14. Tallahassee city, Florida 29.9
15. Buffalo city, New York 28.8
16. McAllen city, Texas 28.7
17. Birmingham city, Alabama 27.8
18. Jackson city, Mississippi 27.8
19. Springfield city, Massachusetts 27.1
20. Milwaukee city, Wisconsin 27.0
21. Rockford city, Illinois 26.9
21. St. Louis city, Missouri 26.7
22. Chattanooga city, Tennessee 26.6
23. Miami city, Florida 26.5
24. Memphis city, Tennessee 26.2
25. Carolina zona urbana, Puerto Rico 26.1
26. Cincinnati city, Ohio 25.7
27. Philadelphia city, Pennsylvania 25.0
28. Akron city, Ohio 24.6
29. Knoxville city, Tennessee 24.4
30. Springfield city, Missouri 24.3
31. Baton Rouge city, Louisiana 24.3
32. Grand Rapids city, Michigan 24.1
33. Richmond city, Virginia 23.9
34. Newark city, New Jersey 23.9
35. Toledo city, Ohio 23.8
36. New Orleans city, Louisiana 23.8
37. Tucson city, Arizona 23.4
38. Dallas city, Texas 23.2
39. Pittsburgh city, Pennsylvania 23.1
40. Kansas City city, Kansas 22.8
41. Pasadena city, Texas 22.7
42. Fresno city, California 22.7
43. Minneapolis city, Minnesota 22.6
44. St. Paul city, Minnesota 22.6
45. Columbus city, Ohio 22.6
46. El Paso city, Texas 22.6
47. Salinas city, California 22.5
48. Atlanta city, Georgia 22.5
49. Augusta-Richmond County consolidated government (balance), Georgia 22.4
50. Providence city, Rhode Island 22.4
Then, since while poverty as a percentage may be relevant from an economic perspective, the actual number of people in poverty in a given area reflects on the overall needs and impact to the community. A city larger than Buffalo, even with a smaller percent of people in poverty may show much greater geographical impacts (blight, etc) even though as a whole the region is "richer." The "booming" Houston area has many hundreds of thousands more poor people, most living in concentrated areas, than the city of Buffalo.
1. New York city, New York 1,546,046
2. Los Angeles city, California 744,567
3. Chicago city, Illinois 603,218
4. Houston city, Texas 459,355
5. Philadelphia city, Pennsylvania 374,226
6. Phoenix city, Arizona 331,893
7. Detroit city, Michigan 326,764
8. Dallas city, Texas 295,464
9. San Antonio city, Texas 261,066
10. San Diego city, California 181,891
11. Memphis city, Tennessee 173,343
12. Columbus city, Ohio 170,889
13. Indianapolis city (balance), Indiana 159,734
14. Milwaukee city, Wisconsin 158,245
15. San Juan zona urbana, Puerto Rico 155,720
16. Cleveland city, Ohio 146,122
17. Austin city, Texas 142,930
18. El Paso city, Texas 138,368
19. Fort Worth city, Texas 136,577
20. Baltimore city, Maryland 129,796
21. Jacksonville city, Florida 124,302
22. Tucson city, Arizona 123,562
23. Atlanta city, Georgia 116,092
24. Denver city, Colorado 114,053
25. Miami city, Florida 112,141
26. San Jose city, California 109,826
27. Fresno city, California 106,934
28. Charlotte city, North Carolina 105,805
29. Washington city, District of Columbia 104,901
30. Boston city, Massachusetts 103,197
31. Nashville-Davidson metropolitan government (balance), Tennessee 101,004
32. Oklahoma City city, Oklahoma 99,516
33. Louisville/Jefferson County metro government (balance), Kentucky 97,545
34. San Francisco city, California 93,644
35. St. Louis city, Missouri 92,032
36. Portland city, Oregon 88,904
37. Sacramento city, California 87,870
38. Long Beach city, California 87,465
39. Albuquerque city, New Mexico 86,771
40. Minneapolis city, Minnesota 83,562
41. Las Vegas city, Nevada 83,261
42. New Orleans city, Louisiana 82,469
43. Cincinnati city, Ohio 81,919
44. Kansas City city, Missouri 79,853
45. Buffalo city, New York 75,259
46. Tulsa city, Oklahoma 74,459
47. Toledo city, Ohio 73,755
48. Oakland city, California 69,706
49. Laredo city, Texas 69,358
50. Ponce zona urbana, Puerto Rico 66,805
And finally, I was looking to find a more regional measure of poverty, rather than the more limiting city data. The census has county data by state, and I linked an interactive map:
Erie County shows a rate of 13.5%, which is just slightly higher than the national median of 13.2%. (Harris County Texas (Houston area) has, by comparison, 15.3% poverty).
Great points, especially the last one about the poorest counties. There isn't a county in NY State that is close to being in the top 100-200 poorest counties in the US, except for Bronx and Kings(Brooklyn) counties. Trust me, outside of the major metros in the South, you will can find some places that time has forgotten about and are extremely poor.
Also, I believe institutions like colleges and prisons can skew the poverty numbers, as those folks may be counted with the county those institutions are in. College students and prisoners aren't the richest folks around.
Food stamps are based on income. So if a lawyer is earning 35K and has three kids then they likely qualify for food stamps. iirc the income guidelines are fairly generous for food stamps. Just one more way the government subsidizes private industry.
I don't think the eligibly requirements for food stamps are generous at all. A family of 3 cannot make more than $1,984 a month and a family of 5 cannot make more than 2,794 month, both are well under 35k. It's a shame there are so many people abusing the assistance programs when so many people who actually need assistance get turned down.
I don't think the eligibly requirements for food stamps are generous at all. A family of 3 cannot make more than $1,984 a month and a family of 5 cannot make more than 2,794 month, both are well under 35k. It's a shame there are so many people abusing the assistance programs when so many people who actually need assistance get turned down.
I am confused. Let's say this lawyer has a house. Money in the bank. But work dried up at the law firm he was doing contract work for..not as a fulltime employee. He has no income for 13 months. Does he still qualify or does he have to dip into his savings first?
Great points, especially the last one about the poorest counties. There isn't a county in NY State that is close to being in the top 100-200 poorest counties in the US, except for Bronx and Kings(Brooklyn) counties. Trust me, outside of the major metros in the South, you will can find some places that time has forgotten about and are extremely poor.
Also, I believe institutions like colleges and prisons can skew the poverty numbers, as those folks may be counted with the county those institutions are in. College students and prisoners aren't the richest folks around.
I would think the cost of living in each county would weigh in. It costs more to live in Fairfield county CT than Orleans county NY so you'd reach poverty level FASTER in Fairfield. Hell, if you're not making 80k in NYC you're at poverty level!
Great sleuthing by the way, threadmeisters! Thanks!
Great points, especially the last one about the poorest counties. There isn't a county in NY State that is close to being in the top 100-200 poorest counties in the US, except for Bronx and Kings(Brooklyn) counties. Trust me, outside of the major metros in the South, you will can find some places that time has forgotten about and are extremely poor.
Also, I believe institutions like colleges and prisons can skew the poverty numbers, as those folks may be counted with the county those institutions are in. College students and prisoners aren't the richest folks around.
College students and prisoners aren't the richest folks around.
Oh really? Mark Zuckerberg and thousands of others at incubators like Stanford and Harvard beg to differ.
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Apparently not.
