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I never understood why people who dont like where they live, just do not move? Its a question I have been asking myself that for years. Moving really isnt that hard a thing to do, living somewhere takes a good attitude. Like ANY city - you have the good and the bad..................the good have a good attitude or try to change whats wrong - the bad just keep complaining, yet do nothing about it.
colleen
Yes, and you make money everytime someone moves so sure, encourage it ! I bet you have been in the same house forever - agents hate to move - I know many of them -do as I say yada yada..we know where your bread is buttered..you talk your wallet...credibility and accuracy therefore a bit biased to say the least..you will be the last person to tell anyone what's wrong with the area or the house...disclosure? Sure...And what can one person do about high property taxes, or 12 feet of snow? Get real!
I live in Raleigh, NC and am getting out of here ASAP!!! Sure it's warmer and newer, but there isn't that much more to do here and "southern hospitality" doesn't exist when everyone is a Northern transplant.
My fiance is from Buffalo and we are moving there next year. I think the people are great in that city and their passion for sports is incredible. I coach hockey and can't wait to join a team in WNY. As far as things to do, most cities have the same things as Buffalo. If you are sick of bars, bike paths, and museums in Buffalo, what makes you think they will be new and exciting somewhere else? Unless you live in NYC, Philly, Boston, LA, Miami, or Chicago, you are going to find the same stuff wherever you go. I can't wait to move and make Buffalo my HOME.
Oh, and I'm originally from Jersey and although I loved it there good luck finding a decent home under $400,000 (and between $10 and $13 K in taxes).
I live in Raleigh, NC and am getting out of here ASAP!!! Sure it's warmer and newer, but there isn't that much more to do here and "southern hospitality" doesn't exist when everyone is a Northern transplant.
My fiance is from Buffalo and we are moving there next year. I think the people are great in that city and their passion for sports is incredible. I coach hockey and can't wait to join a team in WNY. As far as things to do, most cities have the same things as Buffalo. If you are sick of bars, bike paths, and museums in Buffalo, what makes you think they will be new and exciting somewhere else? Unless you live in NYC, Philly, Boston, LA, Miami, or Chicago, you are going to find the same stuff wherever you go. I can't wait to move and make Buffalo my HOME.
Oh, and I'm originally from Jersey and although I loved it there good luck finding a decent home under $400,000 (and between $10 and $13 K in taxes).
A semi-major metropolis would have more variety/options for things "to do" and people (my generation) to meet. Yes, it will be new and exciting till it gets old, but that could take a long time! Bars here are dumps. "Ain't got no" clubs. Neighborhoods all over the entire area are in decline and economic progress does not exist. Someone said businesses are moving in...No offense but dollar stores, aldis and the like seem to be a bad sign of things to me. Have you looked at the help wanted ads lately? So many white collar "average" jobs require degrees but the pay doesn't merit the requirements! The number of NFPs in this area is a sign of something too.
Tell me, please: What 10 things did you most love about Jersey? The SHORE is one, yes?! What else?
I think we'll see a resurgance of second-tier cities as the big cities (Boston, NYC, Philadelphia, DC, Atlanta, Miami, Chicago, Phoenix, San Diego, LA, SF, Seattle) are too big, too congested, and just too darned expensive. Traffic gridlock is a HUGE issue in each of those major cities.
Expensive housing is what drove us out of Fairfax County in northern VA (DC metro area). Our $500k house here in COL SPGS would've been $1M back there, just insane. Upon retiring, we took our money and got outta there in 2005.
I'm near the start of the baby boomer group (1948). Millions more are coming along behind me. Many of them want to get out of high cost coastal areas and get back to a more livable scale. They want out of the teeth-grinding traffic and crowds, high prices and all that goes with living in those cities.
Second tier cities are a good candidate for retiring boomers with time and money to make things happen. Old downtowns will be re-energized by people seeking walkable lifestyles without driving to get everything. When gas hits $5 a gallon, living in-town will be the in-thing. Even nasty areas will not be immune to gentrification. Old inner city industries are giving way to graybeard America. Old smokstack industry is gone, new industry is well outside of town.
Big cities will stay big, busy & bustling. But millions will head to the exits and re-new many second-tier and rural towns.
Smart cities will seek retirees. We don't need jobs, thus there's no need to spend taxpayer money to induce businesses to come to town. Don't need more roads to commute as we don't work. Don't need schools. Just need doctors, hospitals, and mostly places to spend money. Our pension checks don't bounce. We don't draw unemployment. We do not get rowdy in bars and fill your jails. We are FREE money for any town that wants us.
I never understood why people who dont like where they live, just do not move? Its a question I have been asking myself that for years. Moving really isnt that hard a thing to do, living somewhere takes a good attitude. Like ANY city - you have the good and the bad..................the good have a good attitude or try to change whats wrong - the bad just keep complaining, yet do nothing about it.
colleen
One can't just pick up and leave (duh). "Gotta do your homework." Research, research, research.
Nobody is moving into Buffalo. The Buffalo school teachers don't live there, the Buffalo police officers don't live there and the fire fighters don't want to live there.
If you want to live in a Buffalo populated community, try any city in the Carolinas, Atlanta, Florida, Nevada etc. Whatever you do, DO NOT LISTEN to the flunky real estate agents on the paid programing radio stations that are pumping up the Elmwood district as the next boom town. Ask these two flunkies where THEY live....it's NOT in Buffalo. Put a fork in Buffalo......it's well past DONE.
You don't live in the city. You said you live in Hamburg. Know what? You could spend your entire life out that way, lots of new stores, McKinley mall, good supermarkets, the Bills stadium in OP, a hamburg village... nothing to ever need to come into the city for except "official" things - court, county hall ( as in deeds, wills, mortgages ), state and federal buildings (FBI, VA, etc... all in different buildings). Why do you hate the place so much? I don't think you ever even worked in the city, you don't know enough about it. I lived there, I worked there, and although I live out east of the city, it is still "the city". Lots of it I don't like, only I find no reason to keep on griping. Stop telling people to go other places if you hate the place; you have the same option!
People mostly post here to promote their town or area... not tell the world they hate it (without saying why)
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People post to give information or state opinions, not to necessarily promote or demote anywhere. If people who uses to live here are ragging on Buffalo, BrainTransplant, then maybe there's something different about this place that causes it. I've looked around various other forums, and the only places I have found that get the same kind of negativity from their current or former inhabitants are Detroit, and Barrow, Alaska. Now not too many people live in Barrow, but surely you will agree that telling the truth about Detroit, however unpleasant, is far better than trying to paint as rosy a picture as possible to promote the place. This isn't buffalorising.com, we're not supposed to have an agenda, one way or the other.
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You don't live in the city. You said you live in Hamburg. Know what? You could spend your entire life out that way, lots of new stores, McKinley mall, good supermarkets, the Bills stadium in OP, a hamburg village... nothing to ever need to come into the city for except "official" things - court, county hall ( as in deeds, wills, mortgages ), state and federal buildings (FBI, VA, etc... all in different buildings). Why do you hate the place so much? I don't think you ever even worked in the city, you don't know enough about it. I lived there, I worked there, and although I live out east of the city, it is still "the city". Lots of it I don't like, only I find no reason to keep on griping. Stop telling people to go other places if you hate the place; you have the same option!
People mostly post here to promote their town or area... not tell the world they hate it (without saying why)
By the way, to answer the original poster's question, people are in fact moving into the city of Buffalo. I forgot the exact statistics, but something like for every 4 people who leave, 1 person moves in. Mainly these people are either 1) people here temporarily, or 2) poor people who are taking advantage of the unusually low housing costs in the city. While it does slow down Buffalo's slow miserable decline, it also makes the overall average Buffalonian poorer and poorer over time.
Indeed, but the outlying areas are good. The City is poor.
Yes and no. Buffalo has its areas, and while EVERY SINGLE CITY in the United States has its bad parts and good parts, I think buffalo is right with it too. Of course, you wouldn't want to recommend moving to the inner city, William St \ Clinton area, because thats a bad area. However, Lovejoy, South Buffalo, North Buffalo, Elmwood, are DECENT areas. While they aren't exactly PRISTINE, I've lived in every single one of them and enjoyed it thoroughly. Right now I'm 22 and I moved out of town, but I plan on moving back because I LOVE the buffalo culture.
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Nobody is moving into Buffalo. Population continues to decline. Young people are leaving in droves.
Well, this 22 yr old is moving back to buffalo! I love buffalo, its my heart and soul. Its funny because Erie County has what, a million people almost? Currently I live in a town of 30,000, and the cost of living is HIGHER than it is in buffalo!! I pay 700 \ mo for an apartment, and it includes water and garbage, and thats the norm here. Most are actually much higher, which is rediculous. Cost of living in Buffalo is dirt cheap, and its one of the reasons I want to move back.
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People post to give information or state opinions, not to necessarily promote or demote anywhere. If people who uses to live here are ragging on Buffalo, BrainTransplant, then maybe there's something different about this place that causes it. I've looked around various other forums, and the only places I have found that get the same kind of negativity from their current or former inhabitants are Detroit, and Barrow, Alaska. Now not too many people live in Barrow, but surely you will agree that telling the truth about Detroit, however unpleasant, is far better than trying to paint as rosy a picture as possible to promote the place. This isn't buffalorising.com, we're not supposed to have an agenda, one way or the other.
True, but merciless bashing doesn't help either. The websites name isn't buffalosucks.com. What BuffaloTransplant was trying to say, if YOU had a brain, was that bashing buffalo by just TROLLING the forum is pointless -- if you have an OPINION then state it, ie Buffalo sucks _FOR THIS AND THIS AND THIS REASON_, not ZOMG LEAVE BUFFALO CUZ I SAID SO ITS TEH HORRIBLEST CITY EVARRRRRRR. Having an opinion is one thing, explaining it is another; randomly stating you hate something helps nobody.
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