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Old 07-09-2013, 05:51 PM
 
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You do realize that the reason Niagara Falls is full of toxic waste dumps is because "the productive class" made their fortunes using the Niagara River and the city of Niagara Falls as dumps for their chemical wastes, right? To my mind, that makes them the "parasitic scum" in WNY.
Way to indict an entire group based on the actions of a few irresponsible companies. What is your point anyway? Obviously, I do not condone using Niagara Falls as a dumping ground. I support cleaning up Niagara Falls and making the city an attractive place for businesses/entrepreneurs who would provide jobs while remaining environmentally conscious - and also an attractive place for hard workers who would be productive members of society. Would you rather have Niagara Falls remain a hotspot for losers who milk the welfare system for everything it's worth?
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:01 PM
 
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Again, what would you suggest?
I'm not going to pretend to have all the answers, but what about a unique and interesting museum that would actually attract tourists, unlike the failed Daredevil Museum and uninteresting aquarium? Since a lot of families visit Niagara Falls, how about creating something like a World Video Game Museum that could also host international competitions (a Video Game Olympics or World Video Game Championships)? These events could be streamed live over the internet and give Niagara Falls the kind of publicity it hasn't had since the Wallenda Walk. There is a large enough video game sub-culture that something like this might be able to catch on. This is just one of many possibilities. On a more macro level, taxes need to be substantially reduced to attract business development, not only in Niagara Falls but all over Upstate New York.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:05 PM
 
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I'll add more ideas, perhaps bring cultural festivals to Downtown Niagara Falls during summer months to give them more exposure to visitors. Try to get a Perfect Game Collegiate Baseball League team for Sal Maglie Stadium: Perfect Game Collegiate Baseball League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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I'm not going to pretend to have all the answers, but what about a unique and interesting museum that would actually attract tourists, unlike the failed Daredevil Museum and uninteresting aquarium? Since a lot of families visit Niagara Falls, how about creating something like a World Video Game Museum that could also host international competitions (a Video Game Olympics or World Video Game Championships)? These events could be streamed live over the internet and give Niagara Falls the kind of publicity it hasn't had since the Wallenda Walk. This is just one of many possibilities. On a more macro level, taxes need to be substantially reduced to attract business development, not only in Niagara Falls but all over Upstate New York.
You don't have to have all of the answers, but something has to happen after all of the complaining and anger subsides. Those are some good ideas, by the way.

How would you reduce taxes? What about education or jobs?

Another thing could be a river or creek walk in conjunction with a city park for another recreational option.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:46 PM
 
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You don't have to have all of the answers, but something has to happen after all of the complaining and anger subsides. Those are some good ideas, by the way.

How would you reduce taxes? What about education or jobs?

Another thing could be a river or creek walk in conjunction with a city park for another recreational option.
Your suggestion of hosting festivals has some potential. Hosting interesting, preferably unique, events in Niagara Falls would give visitors from nearby cities (Buffalo, Hamilton, Mississauga, Toronto, Rochester, and other cities further out) an excuse to visit the falls and inject some money into the local economy. When I was in Gothenburg, Sweden the other summer, they were hosting this huge handball tournament that attracted a ton of people. The streets were filled with people. The hotel desk clerk said it's like that every year during this tournament. Why doesn't Niagara Falls find some niche like that and capitalize on it? It doesn't have to be handball, or video games. It can be anything that would attract big crowds. Obviously, it would take more than one or two annual festivals to create a consistently vibrant environment in Downtown Niagara Falls, that could spur further development. Finding a way to have college kids from NU or NCC live in Downtown Niagara Falls, as you previously mentioned, is certainly worth looking into. You would then see lots of establishments popping up to meet the demand of these new residents.

I believe I already went over how I would reduce taxes across the board in New York State. Having a more business-friendly environment would boost the local economies of all New York cities, Niagara Falls included. Also, more jobs would be created in the tourism industry if the our side of the Falls became a more attractive place for visitors. Right now it's a complete ghost town, with the exception of Niagara Falls State Park and the casino. So much potential wasted.

(Last paragraph deleted. It looks there is already a coin museum in Washington D.C.)
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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Things like land banking, urban farming and perhaps a Formula 1 course could also possibly work in the city. I think Formula 1 with its international cache could attract racing fans from the US and Canada. Currently vacant space within city limits may be used for a track, which could also be used as a local circuit or even for recreational use.

I don't know if the coin museum exists, but it may work.

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Old 07-09-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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Things like land banking, urban farming and perhaps a Formula 1 course could also possibly work in the city. I think Formula 1 with its international cache could attract racing fans from the US and Canada. Currently vacant space within city limits may be used for a track, which could also be used as a local circuit or even for recreational use.
How much would the taxpayers have to pay for a Formula 1 track? Can we afford it? Would any private investors be interested in such a proposal?
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:54 PM
 
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Way to indict an entire group based on the actions of a few irresponsible companies. What is your point anyway? Obviously, I do not condone using Niagara Falls as a dumping ground. I support cleaning up Niagara Falls and making the city an attractive place for businesses/entrepreneurs who would provide jobs while remaining environmentally conscious - and also an attractive place for hard workers who would be productive members of society. Would you rather have Niagara Falls remain a hotspot for losers who milk the welfare system for everything it's worth?
"A few irresponsible companies"??? Do you think Love Canal was an isolated incident? Good grief you are ignorant and delusional!

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The 1978 discovery of toxic chemicals beneath the suburban infrastructure of Love Canal, in Niagara Falls, New York first illuminated the consequences of environmental neglect. For decades, many American businesses had disposed of hazardous waste improperly, contaminating tens of thousands of sites nationally, including nearly 250 within Region 2 alone. Accidents, spills, and leaks of hazardous materials resulted in land, water, and air that pose immediate and potential threats to public and environmental health.
--EPA Region 2
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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"A few irresponsible companies"??? Do you think Love Canal was an isolated incident? Good grief you are ignorant and delusional!

--EPA Region 2
In the context of Niagara Falls, saying that there were "a few" irresponsible companies isn't totally out of line. "Region 2" includes all of New York, New Jersey, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and eight tribal nations. Did you even bother to read the website you posted?

But shame on me for saying that it would be good for a productive class (that would comply with environmental standards) to emerge in Niagara Falls. It's obvious that you are just looking to pick a fight with me, Linda. Give it a rest already.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:17 PM
 
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I believe I already went over how I would reduce taxes across the board in New York State. Having a more business-friendly environment would boost the local economies of all New York cities, Niagara Falls included.

How do you suggest making the pols in Albany cut the taxes in this state? They tax business to death, as well as people. They always have.
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