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02-10-2008, 01:52 AM
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as for the starving and uninsured let them eat cake and off with there heads. hows that for insurance. jk
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02-10-2008, 07:47 AM
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The Bills games in Toronto are an ominous sign that a Bills stadium wont be needed. At least in Western NY. Toronto=$$$$....
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02-11-2008, 09:45 PM
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Wilson will sell the team to the highest bidder -- or his estate will. It was on the radio news that Tom Golisano is looking at it.... I wonder if he could beat the price Toronto might come up with. I wishing for the old days when you ( the location)could buy a team as a community as Green Bay did; Wilson spent $25K and look what he has now. Selfish to send them to Toronto IMHO.
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06-05-2009, 07:11 AM
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To do this right, it would have to be downtown and it would have to be a retractable roof so, it could hold year-round events. Hotels, restaurants, bars and many other businesses would fair greatly as a result of the added activity. The people of Buffalo would find a way to make ends meet because that's what we do here. I'm all for it!
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06-05-2009, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FedupWNY
Agreed. If the Buffalo Bills have to stay, let them do renovations to the Orchard Park stadium.
Seeing how crazy it is after a Sabres, or Bison's game, concerts, etc ... not much has spun off having those teams downtown, except for a few bars here & there that stay open late. A few restaurants, but as for shopping merchants on Main Street, it's all but gone. Event-goers at the end get in their cars/hope on the subway and head out of the city. (this you are probably familiar with, but had to say it for those reading outside of the area).
Has anyone ever been to Cleveland? Their stadium is on the water in the corner of their downtown, as with the Indians ballpark, but they have other downtown attractions too. Food for thought. If we (in Buffalo) had the downtown we did 30 years ago.... a stadium for football might have been plausable.
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Cleveland isn't much better. The Flats boomed and died all in about 10 years. The Warehouse District and E. 4th are doing well, but I still don't think it is as good as The Flats were in their heyday. The only advantages Cleveland's downtown has is the Rock Hall and the Art Museum.
Personally, I think you'll see the Bills move to Toronto before you see a football stadium Downtown or on the Waterfront. Plus, Bills games are known for their "tailgate culture", something you really can't do well at a downtown stadium.
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06-05-2009, 04:18 PM
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A proud Urban Photographer of Buffalo, NY
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Originally Posted by truemuck
Personally, I think you'll see the Bills move to Toronto before you see a football stadium Downtown or on the Waterfront. Plus, Bills games are known for their "tailgate culture", something you really can't do well at a downtown stadium.
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You most certainly can if there are dozens of downtown vast parking lots like at HSBC Arena! 
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06-05-2009, 07:00 PM
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...Why do you think there are so many bars and resturants in buffalo? The awanser is the sabres mostly. People want to get something to eat and drink before and after the games. If the bills get a new stadium on the water front there will be room for more restarants and bussiness...
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This made me laugh.  A typical answer from a young man...
WE NEED MORE BARS.
"We are not shivering because it is so Cold--
It is just Alcoholic Delirium Tremens".
That is good way to BOOST BUFFALO, and give it something to brag about.
If WE CANNOT GET YOU DRUNK,
NOBODY CAN...
COME TO BUFFALO,
MORE CORNER BARS...
THAN ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
BOOZE BUFFALO, IT IS GOOD FOR YOU.
And we all though that Professional Sports do not give something to the community--my mistake.
Livecontent
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06-05-2009, 09:43 PM
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Watching the local news tonight, they said there are uncomfirmed reports the Bills are consulting with a stadium design firm.
If this is true, I would wonder whether the location they are thinking of is in WNY or Southern Ontario.
I think in Buffalo, you could make a downtown stadium work. Yes, tailgate parties are a big part of the Bills experience for some. Our downtown is not Manhattan. You could still tailgate at any number of surface lots. Plus, the Bills were not always in Orchard Park. The history started at Best and Jefferson, which isn't exactly the country.
The thing is, I am just not sure why a new stadium would be necessary. It would be nice to have a modern facility with a dome, or retractable dome, or whatever (from a season ticket holder's point of view anyway... I'd prefer to be warm and dry and watch good football, than the cold one way wind swept rain strewn mess we see late in the season). Still, "The Ralph" has plenty of luxury suites now, plenty of seats, and is still in good condition.
I just do not see a new football stadium being built for them. The state has no money, local governments have no money....
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06-05-2009, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Checkered24
Watching the local news tonight, they said there are uncomfirmed reports the Bills are consulting with a stadium design firm.
If this is true, I would wonder whether the location they are thinking of is in WNY or Southern Ontario.
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wgrz.com | Buffalo, NY | Bills Deny Stadium Report
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06-06-2009, 04:09 PM
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The Ralph is 36 years old and the 5th oldest NFL stadium. It has gone thru many upgrades over the years and is still a wonderful place to watch a game but its day will come. I would be in favor of spending some tax dollars on a new stadium if it came with a 50 year commitment from the Bills.
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