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View Poll Results: Do you feel the Govt takes too much control over the state of NY
YES 61 71.76%
NO 24 28.24%
Voters: 85. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-29-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Linda_d:

Because the subject of this topic is "Leaving buffalo ny after 50 yrs goodbye to a controlled state". Maybe it's because some of us can contribute to this subject, because we have said "goodbye to a controlled state" and can directly relate to it. It is a subject that we are quite familiar with. I've lived in your God awful state for most of my life and am happy as hell that I got out of there. I will do all I can to encourage others to do the same. I've also been all over New York State especially when I had friends that went to college at various locations throughout New York State including Fredonia and Niagara Falls so I am very familiar with that area. It's just that you do not like to read what we have to say. It's a free country, I have a right to express my opinions and you have a right to not read them. So don't. Have fun in your little "Hell hole" while others such as myself have truly found their paradise. I don't have to justify my moving and am free to move back if I so desire, but there is not enough money in the world that would get me to move back to New York. I'm guessing that you are a "Progressive" that's trying to justify all the damage that the Democratic Party has done to your beloved state. I hope I've answered your question although I'm sure you do not like the answer. Maybe you should get a life and move on.

Whatevah.
You post on the New York forum a whole lot more than you do on the Arizona forums, and on this particular thread a whole lot more than any other in the last month, and it's always the same pathetic whine. If you hate this state so much, what do you care what happens here? If it's so good in Prescott or Bullhead City or whatever your current Arizona residence is, then why can't you get a new life? Jeez, you're like the loser who shows up at his old high school in the September after graduation to laugh at all the high school kids because he flunked out of college and doesn't have a job.
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Old 04-29-2014, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Linda_d:
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"You post on the New York forum a whole lot more than you do on the Arizona forums"
It really is none of your business whether I post here or not. If you do not like what I have to say then don't read it! It's just that simple. I guess since you've followed my posts both here and on the Arizona thread you're a gluten for punishment. Again the subject is"Leaving buffalo ny after 50 yrs goodbye to a controlled state". Is it that hard for you to understand? Jeez, I guess reading comprehension is not one of your best subjects, or are you like the loser who flunked out of college because you couldn't read or understand what a subject is all about? You haven't disputed anything I've had to say about New York or the obvious reasons that so many people are leaving. Instead you respond with ridiculous comments and statements that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. I do have a new life in Arizona, I thank God for that, and I will continue to post on whatever subjects that I can personally relate to whether you like it or not. Or is free speech only reserved to people who think like you? Or are you like your beloved Governor Cuomo who stated that people that do not think like him are not welcome in New York? No wonder New York is a "controlled state". Now that I'm out of there, I could care less about what happens to New York State. I'm just doing what I can to convince any "Free Thinking" person to get the hell out of there before the whole state collapses and ends up like Detroit. I will continue to fight Liberalism, Socialism and Progressivism where ever it rears it's ugly head.

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Old 04-29-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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Linda_d:

It really is none of your business whether I post here or not. If you do not like what I have to say then don't read it! It's just that simple. I guess since you've followed my posts both here and on the Arizona thread you're a gluten for punishment. Again the subject is"Leaving buffalo ny after 50 yrs goodbye to a controlled state". Is it that hard for you to understand? Jeez, I guess reading comprehension is not one of your best subjects, or are you like the loser who flunked out of college because you couldn't read or understand what a subject is all about? You haven't disputed anything I've had to say about New York or the obvious reasons that so many people are leaving. Instead you respond with ridiculous comments and statements that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. I do have a new life in Arizona, I thank God for that, and I will continue to post on whatever subjects that I can personally relate to whether you like it or not. Or is free speech only reserved to people who think like you? Or are you like your beloved Governor Cuomo who stated that people that do not think like him are not welcome in New York? No wonder New York is a "controlled state". Now that I'm out of there, I could care less about what happens to New York State. I'm just doing what I can to convince any "Free Thinking" person to get the hell out of there before the whole state collapses and ends up like Detroit. I will continue to fight Liberalism, Socialism and Progressivism where ever it rears it's ugly head.
Detroit's downfall was its terrible race relations, over dependence on one industry, over abundance of unskilled labor and economic flight, among other factors, not so much these other things mentioned. I actually attended a Big Ten university in MI for a few years and saw the results of this to some degree. So, it is more socio-historical than political in terms of Detroit.

With that said, there are actually some very nice neighborhoods still within the city and its metro area has some very nice suburban communities.
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Old 04-29-2014, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Buffalo
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Linda_d:

It really is none of your business whether I post here or not. If you do not like what I have to say then don't read it! It's just that simple. I guess since you've followed my posts both here and on the Arizona thread you're a gluten for punishment. Again the subject is"Leaving buffalo ny after 50 yrs goodbye to a controlled state". Is it that hard for you to understand? Jeez, I guess reading comprehension is not one of your best subjects, or are you like the loser who flunked out of college because you couldn't read or understand what a subject is all about? You haven't disputed anything I've had to say about New York or the obvious reasons that so many people are leaving. Instead you respond with ridiculous comments and statements that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. I do have a new life in Arizona, I thank God for that, and I will continue to post on whatever subjects that I can personally relate to whether you like it or not. Or is free speech only reserved to people who think like you? Or are you like your beloved Governor Cuomo who stated that people that do not think like him are not welcome in New York? No wonder New York is a "controlled state". Now that I'm out of there, I could care less about what happens to New York State. I'm just doing what I can to convince any "Free Thinking" person to get the hell out of there before the whole state collapses and ends up like Detroit. I will continue to fight Liberalism, Socialism and Progressivism where ever it rears it's ugly head.
This forum is for Buffalo. You admitted you never lived here.
Therefore, while your opinion on certain topics may be valuable somewhere, it's of no value here. Move along or post your rants in the Politics forums.
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Old 04-29-2014, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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BigD_JT_1422:
The forum is also about "Leaving a controlled state", maybe you should read the heading. This has everything to do with the political situation in New York not just Buffalo. What's happening in Buffalo is happening throughout New York State. I will say to you what I said to "Linda_D". It really is none of your business whether I post here or not. If you do not like what I have to say then don't read it! It's just that simple. Move along? You sound like another tolerant Liberal who believes in free speech.

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Old 04-29-2014, 05:00 PM
 
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BigD_JT_1422:
The forum is also about "Leaving a controlled state", maybe you should read the heading. This has everything to do with the political situation in New York. What's happening in Buffalo is happening throughout New York State. I will say to you what I said to "Linda_D". It really is none of your business whether I post here or not. If you do not like what I have to say then don't read it! It's just that simple. Move along? You sound like another tolerant Liberal.

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Hey EXNYER. Kudos to you for standing up to what you believe in. It's called freedom of speech. Something most NYERS don't believe in because they are so liberal. I've lived in NYS my entire life. " Soon to be leaving a government controlled state " I'm independent and this state is turning me Republican because I'm tired of all the welfare bums who live here in NY that depends on the government assistance.. Who in return depends on those who work!!! I'd rather live in a Republican red state where the govt isn't so lenient on welfare bums. If I'm gonna work every day of my life and contribute to society which is what I've been doing then I'm not going to live my working years contributing to those sitting on their porch drinking a 40 ounce beer (which I always see same bums doing). As long as the state of NY so freely hands out assistance then all hard working blue collar men and women will continue on the outbound train.
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Old 04-29-2014, 06:22 PM
 
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Hey EXNYER. Kudos to you for standing up to what you believe in. It's called freedom of speech. Something most NYERS don't believe in because they are so liberal. I've lived in NYS my entire life. " Soon to be leaving a government controlled state " I'm independent and this state is turning me Republican because I'm tired of all the welfare bums who live here in NY that depends on the government assistance.. Who in return depends on those who work!!! I'd rather live in a Republican red state where the govt isn't so lenient on welfare bums. If I'm gonna work every day of my life and contribute to society which is what I've been doing then I'm not going to live my working years contributing to those sitting on their porch drinking a 40 ounce beer (which I always see same bums doing). As long as the state of NY so freely hands out assistance then all hard working blue collar men and women will continue on the outbound train.
Welfare in the US: Just the facts.
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Old 04-29-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Northerner89:
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"Hey EXNYER. Kudos to you for standing up to what you believe in."
Thanks for your moral support! Your comments are 100% right on, especially:
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"Id be very concerned too if I were you and frightened of bloggers who has already lived in this state of NY that's warning others to THINK before moving to your hell. "
Anytime someone tells the truth about something that Liberals refuse to believe they will try to shut you up or shout you down. I'm surprised that they haven't called me a racist. Sure, they call me a "pathetic whiner" and they are tired of reading my posts and that I have no business expressing my opinions. You see the 1st Amendment only applies to them. God forbid, they certainly don't believe in the 2nd amendment or in the rest of the "Constitution" for that matter. To them it is a 'living breathing document" that they can change at the stroke of a pen or from the bench. It is a document that all government officials are sworn to uphold yet it is consistently being violated mostly in "Progressive" states such as New York. Progressives hate the "Constitution" because it is there to prevent the government from enslaving the people. Progressives want to control every aspect of your life from the food you eat, to the cars you drive, to the guns you own. New York is one of, if not the capitol of that way of thinking. The "Constitution" is their main obstacle . Since "Constitutional Conservatives" of which I am one, are the political enemies of the Cuomo administration and of Progressives. What better way to punish us than by criminalizing our otherwise lawful behavior and use the full force of the government to enforce it? I'm referring to the "Safe Act". I'm just glad I left New York several years before that travesty and blatant violation of our 2nd Amendment rights took place. Cuomo clearly set out to punish his political enemies and punish them he did. His motives became apparent when he made the statement that people who do not think like him are not welcome in New York. Good! I hope they all leave, let the rest that support him wallow in their own misery, when they are the only ones stuck footing the bill. If that doesn't motivate more people to move I don't know what will? For people who think like we do all you have to do is read the writing on the wall. I wish you all the luck in your future plans of getting out of New York. Believe me you will be all the better for it. For me it is Arizona, I chose to live there because I wanted to live there, and have absolutely no regrets. Nothing beats the taste of Freedom!

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Old 04-29-2014, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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ckhthankgod:
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"Welfare in the US: Just the facts."
It's not just the welfare, it's the insatiable demands of "more money" from state and local governments from public employee's and teacher's unions that are in bed with the state legislatures. This is driving many municipalities into bankruptcy, San Bernardino CA, Stockton CA, and Pritchard AL are but three examples. Then there's Medicaid which New York spends more on than California and Texas combined.

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NEW YORK OVERRUN BY WELFARE SEEKERS By Mike Hudson

"New York State is a lot of things to a lot of people but, to welfare recipients, it is the land of milk and honey, a place where gilt- edged benefits never run out and generations of families are supported with money taken from hardworking taxpayers."
http://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/...eSeekers.html]
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"The political will to put an end to the gravy train that is the New York State welfare system is lacking because powerful downstate representatives in the State Legislature have a huge number of welfare recipients among their voting constituencies.
They vote for a living while we work for a living."
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Old 04-29-2014, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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ckhthankgod:
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"Detroit's downfall was its terrible race relations, over dependence on one industry, over abundance of unskilled labor and economic flight, among other factors, not so much these other things mentioned. I actually attended a Big Ten university in MI for a few years and saw the results of this to some degree. So, it is more socio-historical than political in terms of Detroit.

With that said, there are actually some very nice neighborhoods still within the city and its metro area has some very nice suburban communities."
A downfall is a downfall regardless of how it happens, New York's problem is the out-migration of people and businesses and the in-migration of people that are dependent on government services, not including pension obligations. It's just not sustainable. There are nice neighborhoods in every state just as there are bad ones. Good luck trying to sell a house anywhere in Detroit, regardless of the neighborhood. I sincerely feel bad for those people, they for all practical purposes are stuck there.
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