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Old 10-26-2016, 03:51 PM
 
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Niagara Falls Listed as Most Dangerous City in NYS by Business First.

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Old 10-26-2016, 08:55 PM
 
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Buffalo is the 2nd most Dangerous City in New York State , I wonder why ? LOL
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:04 PM
 
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Niagara Falls: the Atlantic City of New York State.

Beating out places like Buffalo and Schenectady is quite a feat.
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:08 PM
 
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:36 PM
 
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Niagara Falls: the Atlantic City of New York State.

Beating out places like Buffalo and Schenectady is quite a feat.
But Buffalo has a gag order in effect on crime in Elmwood Village, Canal Side & Buffalo Niagara Medical Corridor etc..
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Old 10-27-2016, 05:10 AM
 
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What is interesting is that NY State is actually around 15-20 in terms of crime rate rankings nationally. Meaning, that its rate is lower than most states. Keep in mind that there are many factors to consider when comparing crime rates between different places, states, etc.

Also, was Newburgh in the running, as it has usually topped these lists? With this said, all of these cities still have a range of neighborhoods in terms of crime and quality. Even in Niagara Falls, crime is largely tied into lifestyle and perhaps even environmental factors.

Where can we find the actual article, as I'm having trouble finding it? I see this article, which is "interesting": https://www.google.com/amp/wivb.com/...?client=Safari and there is the usual Neighborhood Scout, which is questionable given the cities that seem to be left off of its lists.

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Old 10-27-2016, 07:26 AM
 
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Of course most cities have relatively safe areas. Even Detroit and Oakland have neighborhoods that aren't complete hellholes. That said, Niagara Falls remains an international embarrassment. Here we have a world-famous tourist destination that isn't particularly safe for tourists. How ridiculous is that? It's especially frustrating when you consider that there exists a competing tourist town directly across the border, that is much safer for visitors.

Sadly, it's not just thugs going after thugs anymore. Niagara Falls State Park has seen an uptick in armed robberies lately (Park Police step up patrols, 5 armed robberies at Niagara Falls State Park since Memorial Day Weekend | wivb.com). Even a Channel 4 News cameraman was assaulted a few blocks from the Rainbow Bridge last weekend: http://wivb.com/2016/10/22/news-4-cr...niagara-falls/

There have been some encouraging developments in recent years (train station, hotels, restaurants, and video game arcades), but violent crime needs to be kept in check if Niagara Falls truly wishes to rebound.
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Old 10-27-2016, 07:45 AM
 
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Of course most cities have relatively safe areas. Even Detroit and Oakland have neighborhoods that aren't complete hellholes. That said, Niagara Falls remains an international embarrassment. Here we have a world-famous tourist destination that isn't particularly safe for tourists. How ridiculous is that? It's especially frustrating when you consider that there exists a competing tourist town directly across the border, that is much safer for visitors.

Sadly, it's not just thugs going after thugs anymore. Niagara Falls State Park has seen an uptick in armed robberies lately (Park Police step up patrols, 5 armed robberies at Niagara Falls State Park since Memorial Day Weekend | wivb.com). Even a Channel 4 News cameraman was assaulted a few blocks from the Rainbow Bridge last weekend: News 4 crew assaulted in Niagara Falls | wivb.com

There have been some encouraging developments in recent years (train station, hotels, restaurants, and video game arcades), but violent crime needs to be kept in check if Niagara Falls truly wishes to rebound.
Is this something that is relatively new thing in the park or has this gone on for years? If it is new, then there needs to be a more proactive approach towards policing the park.

I don't know if it is an International embarrassment, as it appears that changes are being made and people are still coming to the park, but there needs to be a more proactive approach. Perhaps more of a community policing model within the park.

Environmental issues in parts of the city is another aspect that needs more attention as well.

Is the Culinary School up and running? I believe that there are other developments occurring in the city as well: Niagara Falls Development News - Page 53 - SkyscraperCity

Niagara Falls ON does have its gritty areas outside of Clifton Hill and the difference is that it is located in Canada's Golden Horseshoe, which is essentially the wealthiest part of that country similar to the Bos-Wash Corridor here in the US.

Detroit and Oakland actually have some very nice neighborhoods within city limits with 6 figure median household incomes. In Niagara Falls, while not 6 figure median household neighborhoods, DeVeaux, parts of LaSalle and parts of Hyde Park are middle class areas of the city.

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Old 10-27-2016, 08:31 AM
 
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Is this something that is relatively new thing in the park or has this gone on for years? If it is new, then there needs to be a more proactive approach towards policing the park.

I don't know if it is an International embarrassment, as it appears that changes are being made and people are still coming to the park, but there needs to be a more proactive approach. Perhaps more of a community policing model within the park.

Environmental issues in parts of the city is another aspect that needs more attention as well.

Is the Culinary School up and running? I believe that there are other developments occurring in the city as well: Niagara Falls Development News - Page 53 - SkyscraperCity

Niagara Falls ON does have its gritty areas outside of Clifton Hill and the difference is that it is located in Canada's Golden Horseshoe, which is essentially the wealthiest part of that country similar to the Bos-Wash Corridor here in the US.

Detroit and Oakland actually have some very nice neighborhoods within city limits with 6 figure median household incomes. In Niagara Falls, while not 6 figure median household neighborhoods, DeVeaux, parts of LaSalle and parts of Hyde Park are middle class areas of the city.
Muggings are definitely on the rise. It wasn't this bad a few years ago:

"Robberies and assaults are relatively rare in Niagara Falls State Park, state statistics show. From 2011 to 2014, state parks police received an average of two reports of robberies involving the use or threat of violence and no more than one report of assault each year."

Japanese tourist returns to Niagara Falls to take on suspect | News OK

Downtown Niagara Falls has been sketchy for eons. It doesn't help that it is surrounded by high-crime neighborhoods to the north and east. You are taking your life in your own hands if you walk a few blocks from the casino. The relatively nicer areas of the Falls that you mention are further away from the main tourist area.

I agree with your proposed solution of increased police presence, especially after dark. Less restrictive gun control measures for law-abiding citizens would also help, as strict gun laws have never deterred criminals from obtaining firearms illegally.

The culinary school is up and running. Their Facebook page can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/nfculinary/
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Old 10-27-2016, 09:15 AM
 
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Muggings are definitely on the rise. It wasn't this bad a few years ago:

"Robberies and assaults are relatively rare in Niagara Falls State Park, state statistics show. From 2011 to 2014, state parks police received an average of two reports of robberies involving the use or threat of violence and no more than one report of assault each year."

Japanese tourist returns to Niagara Falls to take on suspect | News OK

Downtown Niagara Falls has been sketchy for eons. It doesn't help that it is surrounded by high-crime neighborhoods to the north and east. You are taking your life in your own hands if you walk a few blocks from the casino. The relatively nicer areas of the Falls that you mention are further away from the main tourist area.

I agree with your proposed solution of increased police presence, especially after dark. Less restrictive gun control measures for law-abiding citizens would also help, as strict gun laws have never deterred criminals from obtaining firearms illegally.

The culinary school is up and running. Their Facebook page can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/nfculinary/
So this is a relative new/recent thing. Ironically, there's this: All-time high for tourism in Niagara Falls - The Buffalo News

I don't know of it is so much the laws versus just actually patrolling the neighborhoods, as well as forming some type of relationship with the people you are suppose to serve. So, when an issue arises, people will be more likely to actually talk to police officers. I'll go a step further and say that NF and other cities need to actually recruit within these neighborhoods or people familiar with these neighborhoods, if not just self police themselves.

Certain communities just deal with their issues from within, with the police being a latter resort. Perhaps this is where organizations/institutions in those neighborhoods come in and have to formulate a plan in terms of public safety within those neighborhoods.
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