NYS Raising Taxes & fee's Again (New York, Buffalo: real estate, how much, house)
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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod
Retirement also plays a part in this as well.
I have to disagree, although people seem to gravitate towards warmer climates with retirement I don't think there numbers are sufficient enough to be driving the listed states listed. These states have marketed themselves providing a favorable business climate and attracted significant employers. Many show up on all the positive lists including, quality of life, best for professionals, best for millennials, best for families etc. As stated Texas does have some of the highest tax burden outside of the Union run states up north but salaries and quality of life keeps people coming. For those who hate living in a/c 6 months a year it would seem more hate living bundled up, freezing and digging out of snow which may explain why warmer climates appear to be more attractive. Traffic stinks no matter where you experience it but you could also look at it as the result of a vibrant economy....
You might hate the heat & Traffic, but millions & millions of others are moving to TX, NV, AZ, NC, SC etc...
Everyone is moving and investing to where everyone is and wants to be and no one is moving & investing where no one wants to be and where people & business's are fleeing 45 years in row like in Buffalo. You would think something must be wrong that Buffalo & WNY have been losing population every single year for 45 years in the row
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Originally Posted by VA Yankee
I have to disagree, although people seem to gravitate towards warmer climates with retirement I don't think there numbers are sufficient enough to be driving the listed states listed. These states have marketed themselves providing a favorable business climate and attracted significant employers. Many show up on all the positive lists including, quality of life, best for professionals, best for millennials, best for families etc. As stated Texas does have some of the highest tax burden outside of the Union run states up north but salaries and quality of life keeps people coming. For those who hate living in a/c 6 months a year it would seem more hate living bundled up, freezing and digging out of snow which may explain why warmer climates appear to be more attractive. Traffic stinks no matter where you experience it but you could also look at it as the result of a vibrant economy....
I didn't say that retirement was "driving" the numbers, but those states also attract its share of retirees is what I am saying. Those things you mention play a part in terms of those that move to those states, but the retirement aspect can't be ignored as well. https://www.google.com/amp/www.marke...8-06FCAC699611
I have to disagree, although people seem to gravitate towards warmer climates with retirement I don't think there numbers are sufficient enough to be driving the listed states listed. These states have marketed themselves providing a favorable business climate and attracted significant employers. Many show up on all the positive lists including, quality of life, best for professionals, best for millennials, best for families etc. As stated Texas does have some of the highest tax burden outside of the Union run states up north but salaries and quality of life keeps people coming. For those who hate living in a/c 6 months a year it would seem more hate living bundled up, freezing and digging out of snow which may explain why warmer climates appear to be more attractive. Traffic stinks no matter where you experience it but you could also look at it as the result of a vibrant economy....
Average age in the Texas city I live in is 32, the zip code I lived in south buffalo average age is 37.
I find central Texas to be much younger, everyone on my street is about 30 years old, and owns their own house. The street I lived on in Buffalo was mostly seniors, or renters who didn't care about the house.
As for the comment AC 6 months out of the year, its actually AC 11 months out of the year. Just a fact of life. My gas furnace runs probably no more than 3-4 weeks out of the year. It will run one cycle during the night to keep the house warm, and it rarely runs during daylight hours.
Your body acclimates to heat, just like it did to cold. When it gets below 60 degrees here people bundle up with winter hats and gloves.
I find heat and sunlight make me generally feel more energized and happy. When it gets to be 100 degrees I can walk around and not be bothered by it at all. Just take breaks, and drink water.
I don't even get into a swimming pool anymore unless it is 95 degrees or hotter outside. 80 is not warm! 70 is not warm!
People can make their choices in life, and live near their work, or live near a train that takes them to work. You don't need to drive 90 minutes to work each way.
My commute is 25 minutes to work, and 30 minutes home. The road I take to work is along a winding creek with nice views and horse pastures, cattle.
When I lived in the city of Buffalo, I had no off street parking. During winter I had to move my car across the street every single day so that the plows would come by, otherwise I would get a ticket instantly. I would have to get up super early to defrost the car, to get to work my 8am, then fight the slick roads and sometimes have to white knuckle drive each way.
Then at my job, I would scrape the car again at lunch then again after work. Nothing sucks more than working a 10 hour shift in an office, then having to shovel out your car for the second time in one day. Then returning home, and having to shovel your walkway and porch off, all before eating dinner.
I think people are moving down south for QUALITY OF LIFE, and job opportunities. It is not just old people who are sick of the cold.
My family members for YEARS would say oh you hate Buffalo, etc etc. Then they went down to Florida and Texas and all said, wow I never knew it was like this. I see why you moved down south. Wow this is much easier life, and so much to do.
Two of them are selling their buffalo suburb houses and moving to Florida gulf coast this week. They looked at housing in Tonawanda first, and for the same price you get a 80 year old house, when you consider the Taxes it isn't even close.
The florida house is newer, has more amenities and the tax is much cheaper. Even when you add in insurance, and HOA it is still much cheaper to buy a $150k house in florida, than a $150k house in Tonawanda, and you get a better house. Not even considering the quality of life, and weather, which are driving factors for most people.
Average age in the Texas city I live in is 32, the zip code I lived in south buffalo average age is 37.
I find central Texas to be much younger, everyone on my street is about 30 years old, and owns their own house. The street I lived on in Buffalo was mostly seniors, or renters who didn't care about the house.
As for the comment AC 6 months out of the year, its actually AC 11 months out of the year. Just a fact of life. My gas furnace runs probably no more than 3-4 weeks out of the year. It will run one cycle during the night to keep the house warm, and it rarely runs during daylight hours.
Your body acclimates to heat, just like it did to cold. When it gets below 60 degrees here people bundle up with winter hats and gloves.
I find heat and sunlight make me generally feel more energized and happy. When it gets to be 100 degrees I can walk around and not be bothered by it at all. Just take breaks, and drink water.
I don't even get into a swimming pool anymore unless it is 95 degrees or hotter outside. 80 is not warm! 70 is not warm!
People can make their choices in life, and live near their work, or live near a train that takes them to work. You don't need to drive 90 minutes to work each way.
My commute is 25 minutes to work, and 30 minutes home. The road I take to work is along a winding creek with nice views and horse pastures, cattle.
When I lived in the city of Buffalo, I had no off street parking. During winter I had to move my car across the street every single day so that the plows would come by, otherwise I would get a ticket instantly. I would have to get up super early to defrost the car, to get to work my 8am, then fight the slick roads and sometimes have to white knuckle drive each way.
Then at my job, I would scrape the car again at lunch then again after work. Nothing sucks more than working a 10 hour shift in an office, then having to shovel out your car for the second time in one day. Then returning home, and having to shovel your walkway and porch off, all before eating dinner.
I think people are moving down south for QUALITY OF LIFE, and job opportunities. It is not just old people who are sick of the cold.
My family members for YEARS would say oh you hate Buffalo, etc etc. Then they went down to Florida and Texas and all said, wow I never knew it was like this. I see why you moved down south. Wow this is much easier life, and so much to do.
Two of them are selling their buffalo suburb houses and moving to Florida gulf coast this week. They looked at housing in Tonawanda first, and for the same price you get a 80 year old house, when you consider the Taxes it isn't even close.
The florida house is newer, has more amenities and the tax is much cheaper. Even when you add in insurance, and HOA it is still much cheaper to buy a $150k house in florida, than a $150k house in Tonawanda, and you get a better house. Not even considering the quality of life, and weather, which are driving factors for most people.
Average age in the Texas city I live in is 32, the zip code I lived in south buffalo average age is 37.
I find central Texas to be much younger, everyone on my street is about 30 years old, and owns their own house. The street I lived on in Buffalo was mostly seniors, or renters who didn't care about the house.
As for the comment AC 6 months out of the year, its actually AC 11 months out of the year. Just a fact of life. My gas furnace runs probably no more than 3-4 weeks out of the year. It will run one cycle during the night to keep the house warm, and it rarely runs during daylight hours.
Your body acclimates to heat, just like it did to cold. When it gets below 60 degrees here people bundle up with winter hats and gloves.
I find heat and sunlight make me generally feel more energized and happy. When it gets to be 100 degrees I can walk around and not be bothered by it at all. Just take breaks, and drink water.
I don't even get into a swimming pool anymore unless it is 95 degrees or hotter outside. 80 is not warm! 70 is not warm!
People can make their choices in life, and live near their work, or live near a train that takes them to work. You don't need to drive 90 minutes to work each way.
My commute is 25 minutes to work, and 30 minutes home. The road I take to work is along a winding creek with nice views and horse pastures, cattle.
When I lived in the city of Buffalo, I had no off street parking. During winter I had to move my car across the street every single day so that the plows would come by, otherwise I would get a ticket instantly. I would have to get up super early to defrost the car, to get to work my 8am, then fight the slick roads and sometimes have to white knuckle drive each way.
Then at my job, I would scrape the car again at lunch then again after work. Nothing sucks more than working a 10 hour shift in an office, then having to shovel out your car for the second time in one day. Then returning home, and having to shovel your walkway and porch off, all before eating dinner.
I think people are moving down south for QUALITY OF LIFE, and job opportunities. It is not just old people who are sick of the cold.
My family members for YEARS would say oh you hate Buffalo, etc etc. Then they went down to Florida and Texas and all said, wow I never knew it was like this. I see why you moved down south. Wow this is much easier life, and so much to do.
Two of them are selling their buffalo suburb houses and moving to Florida gulf coast this week. They looked at housing in Tonawanda first, and for the same price you get a 80 year old house, when you consider the Taxes it isn't even close.
The florida house is newer, has more amenities and the tax is much cheaper. Even when you add in insurance, and HOA it is still much cheaper to buy a $150k house in florida, than a $150k house in Tonawanda, and you get a better house. Not even considering the quality of life, and weather, which are driving factors for most people.
Actually, the median age for Buffalo is 33.1 according to 2011-2015 census information. So, there isn't much difference between Buffalo and your current TX city. That means that half of the people in the city of Buffalo are 33 or younger.
Actually, the median age for Buffalo is 33.1 according to 2011-2015 census information. So, there isn't much difference between Buffalo and your current TX city. That means that half of the people in the city of Buffalo are 33 or younger.
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Originally Posted by JH6
Average age in the Texas city I live in is 32, the zip code I lived in south buffalo average age is 37.
I find central Texas to be much younger, everyone on my street is about 30 years old, and owns their own house. The street I lived on in Buffalo was mostly seniors, or renters who didn't care about the house.
As for the comment AC 6 months out of the year, its actually AC 11 months out of the year. Just a fact of life. My gas furnace runs probably no more than 3-4 weeks out of the year. It will run one cycle during the night to keep the house warm, and it rarely runs during daylight hours.
Your body acclimates to heat, just like it did to cold. When it gets below 60 degrees here people bundle up with winter hats and gloves.
I find heat and sunlight make me generally feel more energized and happy. When it gets to be 100 degrees I can walk around and not be bothered by it at all. Just take breaks, and drink water.
I don't even get into a swimming pool anymore unless it is 95 degrees or hotter outside. 80 is not warm! 70 is not warm!
People can make their choices in life, and live near their work, or live near a train that takes them to work. You don't need to drive 90 minutes to work each way.
My commute is 25 minutes to work, and 30 minutes home. The road I take to work is along a winding creek with nice views and horse pastures, cattle.
When I lived in the city of Buffalo, I had no off street parking. During winter I had to move my car across the street every single day so that the plows would come by, otherwise I would get a ticket instantly. I would have to get up super early to defrost the car, to get to work my 8am, then fight the slick roads and sometimes have to white knuckle drive each way.
Then at my job, I would scrape the car again at lunch then again after work. Nothing sucks more than working a 10 hour shift in an office, then having to shovel out your car for the second time in one day. Then returning home, and having to shovel your walkway and porch off, all before eating dinner.
I think people are moving down south for QUALITY OF LIFE, and job opportunities. It is not just old people who are sick of the cold.
My family members for YEARS would say oh you hate Buffalo, etc etc. Then they went down to Florida and Texas and all said, wow I never knew it was like this. I see why you moved down south. Wow this is much easier life, and so much to do.
Two of them are selling their buffalo suburb houses and moving to Florida gulf coast this week. They looked at housing in Tonawanda first, and for the same price you get a 80 year old house, when you consider the Taxes it isn't even close.
The florida house is newer, has more amenities and the tax is much cheaper. Even when you add in insurance, and HOA it is still much cheaper to buy a $150k house in florida, than a $150k house in Tonawanda, and you get a better house. Not even considering the quality of life, and weather, which are driving factors for most people.
I don't have any disagreement with what you post I was responding to what other posters believe. Ultimately a person chooses what is best for them and if they don't like hot weather then they avoid those areas just as people choose to avoid cold/winter. Many posters are absolute in their views and see the civilized world ends so many miles from their homes, others take a checkboard approach and post by picking this, that and whatever so that they can prove the same QOL that those who have left speak of.
That's not it, as they only make up a small, certain percentage of the city. By the way, many older cities that can't annex land/unincorporated communities tend to rank higher on that list and can't "water down" its poverty like "new growth" cities.
If anything, the colleges and the fact that people of color tend to have a lower median age, likely has more to do with it. There are actually quite a few younger people that have moved to the city as well.
I don't have any disagreement with what you post I was responding to what other posters believe. Ultimately a person chooses what is best for them and if they don't like hot weather then they avoid those areas just as people choose to avoid cold/winter. Many posters are absolute in their views and see the civilized world ends so many miles from their homes, others take a checkboard approach and post by picking this, that and whatever so that they can prove the same QOL that those who have left speak of.
Or some offer information that doesn't have anything to do with an opinion either way.
Ckh, I think you're simply ignoring the alternative facts.
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