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Old 04-27-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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There are many reasons for those moves. So, it isn’t just one thing to pin the moves on.
What are some of those reasons?
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Old 04-27-2018, 09:07 AM
 
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^Look at updated post.
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Old 04-27-2018, 09:35 AM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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Uptown Charlotte has the NASCAR hall of fame. If you like that stuff. San Diego is overbuilt and overcrowded and now is for the wealthy. Can you afford to live in San Diego when the median home price is over 600 k
And yet people continue to flock to both regions; maybe its the well paying jobs that pay the kind of salaries that support a 600k median home price in SD. NASCAR is just one facet that people may be drawn to but most likely its the jobs and quality of life they favor...
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Old 04-27-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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my personal view is that buffalo is a pretty depressing metro in a lot of ways, regardless of the season. I honestly can’t imagine why any millennial who didn’t already have family/business ties to the city would choose it over any of the countless other affordable mid size markets throughout the US. With high taxes, crime, decaying infrastructure, limited cultural attractions, and arguably some of the worst weather of any major city in the lower 48, what does buffalo have to offer that any other city can’t? Niagara Falls isn’t even really much of a selling point because it’s more of a tourist attraction and once you’ve seen it you’ve seen it.

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Old 04-27-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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My dad was from Toronto so I am quite familiar with it. When I was growing up we would go there to see my grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. Believe it or not people would come from Toronto to Buffalo in the 50's to see the shows and enjoy the city. Forward to today and the 2 cities:

Buffalo 1960 532,000 Buffalo today 256,092
Toronto 1960 672,407 Toronto today 2,731,571
Toronto annexed/merged with suburbs like North York sometime in there--I want to say within the past 10-15 years (because I remember staying at a hotel in North York when I was a kid and it was a separate suburban entity). I'll wikipedia to confirm.

...ok, so more like within the past 20 years--Wikipedia lists an 'amalgamation' date of 1/1/98. Historical populations on the demographics of Toronto's Wikiepdia page have been updated to reflect the city's current configuration; the 1961 population is listed as 1,824,481, for example. Might have to go old-school and dig out an encyclopedia for the 1996 city limits population, which was what I was attempting to find (pre-merge/annexation)
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:52 AM
 
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my personal view is that buffalo is a pretty depressing metro in a lot of ways, regardless of the season. I honestly can’t imagine why any millennial who didn’t already have family/business ties to the city would choose it over any of the countless other affordable mid size markets throughout the US. With high taxes, crime, decaying infrastructure, limited cultural attractions, and arguably some of the worst weather of any major city in the lower 48, what does buffalo have to offer that any other city can’t? Niagara Falls isn’t even really much of a selling point because it’s more of a tourist attraction and once you’ve seen it you’ve seen it.
Affordability, location(across the Niagara River from Canada’s most populated region), it is big enough with enough things to do, close proximity to water and other outdoor amenities, 4 seasons(if you like that), walkability(within and outside of the city limits), while there are rough neighborhoods it has safe urban areas and is a generally safe metro, etc.
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:52 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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my personal view is that buffalo is a pretty depressing metro in a lot of ways, regardless of the season. I honestly can’t imagine why any millennial who didn’t already have family/business ties to the city would choose it over any of the countless other affordable mid size markets throughout the US. With high taxes, crime, decaying infrastructure, limited cultural attractions, and arguably some of the worst weather of any major city in the lower 48, what does buffalo have to offer that any other city can’t? Niagara Falls isn’t even really much of a selling point because it’s more of a tourist attraction and once you’ve seen it you’ve seen it.
Concur. I see most of your posts are from the Phoenix forum...are you an expat?

...then again, your second-most frequented is Boston, so maybe you've just made the trip from there in the past
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Old 04-27-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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my personal view is that buffalo is a pretty depressing metro in a lot of ways, regardless of the season. I honestly can’t imagine why any millennial who didn’t already have family/business ties to the city would choose it over any of the countless other affordable mid size markets throughout the US. With high taxes, crime, decaying infrastructure, limited cultural attractions, and arguably some of the worst weather of any major city in the lower 48, what does buffalo have to offer that any other city can’t? Niagara Falls isn’t even really much of a selling point because it’s more of a tourist attraction and once you’ve seen it you’ve seen it.
Buffalo have few nice suburban towns along with Lake Erie which is kinda nice. The mall that call Galleria is huge.
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Old 04-27-2018, 01:08 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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No one can argue that the billions of dollars our governor spent on Buffalo is having a positive effect on the city and he is to be commended. The Medical corridor is a big plus. We need more private investment to continue what Cuomo has started.
You did move away permanently, right? Sometimes you talk like you're still here, or at least merely snowbirding. I'd probably be the same way if I moved, Buffalo lifer that I've been to this point.
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Old 04-27-2018, 01:27 PM
 
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Buffalo have few nice suburban towns along with Lake Erie which is kinda nice. The mall that call Galleria is huge.
There are also some Canal towns in the area as well.
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