What keeps Buffalo alive?

[mikesuicide]

Originally Posted by ocean2026

Research?????? Buffalo lost half its population since 1946-- I dare you to show me otherwise. Let's see your research Buffalo4life! Misinformed there are even some people who like to be in jail, however when people get a chance to leave Buffalo - most ( not all do). For 40 years people have tried to keep others or attract others to Buffalo - it hasn't and won't work.

You guys are so defensive and so out of touch - you don't even realize I'm someone who likes Buffalo.

I believe the original poster asked in a poll what KEEPS Buffalo alive, NOT what cripples it. If we wanted that answer we would have to look no further then naysayers like you. What keeps this city alive is hearty, strong willed people who are surviviors. The same kind of people who could go anywhere in this country and have great success due to our drive and work ethic. Instead we stick it out and think positive, The biggest problem this country faces today is negative energy, doom and gloom outlooks and pessimistic attitudes. I am working so hard to recover from my bout with that very attitude. Anyone can skip town when the going gets tough, the measure of this cities strengh lies in the people who have the tenacity to stick around.

[Buffalonian4life]

Originally Posted by mikesuicide

I believe the original poster asked in a poll what KEEPS Buffalo alive, NOT what cripples it. If we wanted that answer we would have to look no further then naysayers like you. What keeps this city alive is hearty, strong willed people who are surviviors. The same kind of people who could go anywhere in this country and have great success due to our drive and work ethic. Instead we stick it out and think positive, The biggest problem this country faces today is negative energy, doom and gloom outlooks and pessimistic attitudes. I am working so hard to recover from my bout with that very attitude. Anyone can skip town when the going gets tough, the measure of this cities strengh lies in the people who have the tenacity to stick around.

Such a true and positive post. What you said sums up what so many believe around here.

[FedupWNY]

Originally Posted by mikesuicide

I believe the original poster asked in a poll what KEEPS Buffalo alive, NOT what cripples it. If we wanted that answer we would have to look no further then naysayers like you. What keeps this city alive is hearty, strong willed people who are surviviors. The same kind of people who could go anywhere in this country and have great success due to our drive and work ethic. Instead we stick it out and think positive, The biggest problem this country faces today is negative energy, doom and gloom outlooks and pessimistic attitudes. I am working so hard to recover from my bout with that very attitude. Anyone can skip town when the going gets tough, the measure of this cities strengh lies in the people who have the tenacity to stick around.

Thank you.

[cheese9988]

Alot of you need to read up on why Buffalo lost its population, then you will understand why the area has been in decline for so long.

1. Buffalo started as a port city, and was dependent and NYC and ALL of the great lakes cites. Not just the Erie Canal, but the Buffalo river is really what founded the town at the time. (I can't even tell you how many people don't know there is a river in Buffalo besides Niagara)

2. Buffalo became a huge railroad hub.

3. Raw goods passing through Buffalo create a great place for manufacturing. The steel industry has an abundance of water.

4. Cheap, abundant energy from Niagara Falls

5. Buffalo has ALWAYS had high taxes

6. The city council was once a good thing, it was the council the changed the town to a city, raised standards of living in Buffalo, etc.

7. People passing through the railways and canal means that there are plenty of people that can settle down and provide work.

8. In the 1940's the government invested billions into the local economy for war purposes.


Now lets see what happened:

1. The railroads proved better than the canal for obvious reasons. The St. Lawrence seaway opened up and essentially cut off Buffalo port.

2. The government invested in interstate highways and airports rather than the railroads.

3. With high taxes, labor strikes, smaller ports and railway hubs Buffalo lost alot of its importance. Ties into #4, we can create cheap energy anywhere nowadays.

4. See #3

5. Taxes are definitely a modern day problem.

6. The city council slows everything down. The mayor needs more power to speed up decisions.

7. At first as Buffalo's job market was declining the population was increasing, an incredible amount of people with no jobs created a havok on the economy. As labor unions would strike, the factories would bring in African Americans from the south to work. It has essentially taken until present day for the population to stabilize. (and even that speculation)

8. 1946, the war is over. Factories are not in high demand as they were. Massive layoffs occur very quickly and create a downward spiral.

The largest contrast is essentially the attitude of people today. Buffalo has gone through alot of ups, downs and hard times. But really up until the 60's-70's most people were actually patriotic about the city. It wasn't until that time that people started to say, "maybe Buffalo isn't coming out of this one."

I chose the people, and is my theory that at least some people here want the downtown of the old days in a bustering city. Its the people who setup shop and make the food and entertainment.

[Buffalonian4life]

Originally Posted by cheese9988

Alot of you need to read up on why Buffalo lost its population, then you will understand why the area has been in decline for so long.

1. Buffalo started as a port city, and was dependent and NYC and ALL of the great lakes cites. Not just the Erie Canal, but the Buffalo river is really what founded the town at the time. (I can't even tell you how many people don't know there is a river in Buffalo besides Niagara)

2. Buffalo became a huge railroad hub.

3. Raw goods passing through Buffalo create a great place for manufacturing. The steel industry has an abundance of water.

4. Cheap, abundant energy from Niagara Falls

5. Buffalo has ALWAYS had high taxes

6. The city council was once a good thing, it was the council the changed the town to a city, raised standards of living in Buffalo, etc.

7. People passing through the railways and canal means that there are plenty of people that can settle down and provide work.

8. In the 1940's the government invested billions into the local economy for war purposes.


Now lets see what happened:

1. The railroads proved better than the canal for obvious reasons. The St. Lawrence seaway opened up and essentially cut off Buffalo port.

2. The government invested in interstate highways and airports rather than the railroads.

3. With high taxes, labor strikes, smaller ports and railway hubs Buffalo lost alot of its importance. Ties into #4, we can create cheap energy anywhere nowadays.

4. See #3

5. Taxes are definitely a modern day problem.

6. The city council slows everything down. The mayor needs more power to speed up decisions.

7. At first as Buffalo's job market was declining the population was increasing, an incredible amount of people with no jobs created a havok on the economy. As labor unions would strike, the factories would bring in African Americans from the south to work. It has essentially taken until present day for the population to stabilize. (and even that speculation)

8. 1946, the war is over. Factories are not in high demand as they were. Massive layoffs occur very quickly and create a downward spiral.

The largest contrast is essentially the attitude of people today. Buffalo has gone through alot of ups, downs and hard times. But really up until the 60's-70's most people were actually patriotic about the city. It wasn't until that time that people started to say, "maybe Buffalo isn't coming out of this one."

I chose the people, and is my theory that at least some people here want the downtown of the old days in a bustering city. Its the people who setup shop and make the food and entertainment.

Now that, my friend, is a fantastic post. Great work, Cheese.

[deno088]

Originally Posted by cheese9988

Alot of you need to read up on why Buffalo lost its population, then you will understand why the area has been in decline for so long.

1. Buffalo started as a port city, and was dependent and NYC and ALL of the great lakes cites. Not just the Erie Canal, but the Buffalo river is really what founded the town at the time. (I can't even tell you how many people don't know there is a river in Buffalo besides Niagara)

2. Buffalo became a huge railroad hub.

3. Raw goods passing through Buffalo create a great place for manufacturing. The steel industry has an abundance of water.

4. Cheap, abundant energy from Niagara Falls

5. Buffalo has ALWAYS had high taxes

6. The city council was once a good thing, it was the council the changed the town to a city, raised standards of living in Buffalo, etc.

7. People passing through the railways and canal means that there are plenty of people that can settle down and provide work.

8. In the 1940's the government invested billions into the local economy for war purposes.


Now lets see what happened:

1. The railroads proved better than the canal for obvious reasons. The St. Lawrence seaway opened up and essentially cut off Buffalo port.

2. The government invested in interstate highways and airports rather than the railroads.

3. With high taxes, labor strikes, smaller ports and railway hubs Buffalo lost alot of its importance. Ties into #4, we can create cheap energy anywhere nowadays.

4. See #3

5. Taxes are definitely a modern day problem.

6. The city council slows everything down. The mayor needs more power to speed up decisions.

7. At first as Buffalo's job market was declining the population was increasing, an incredible amount of people with no jobs created a havok on the economy. As labor unions would strike, the factories would bring in African Americans from the south to work. It has essentially taken until present day for the population to stabilize. (and even that speculation)

8. 1946, the war is over. Factories are not in high demand as they were. Massive layoffs occur very quickly and create a downward spiral.

The largest contrast is essentially the attitude of people today. Buffalo has gone through alot of ups, downs and hard times. But really up until the 60's-70's most people were actually patriotic about the city. It wasn't until that time that people started to say, "maybe Buffalo isn't coming out of this one."

I chose the people, and is my theory that at least some people here want the downtown of the old days in a bustering city. Its the people who setup shop and make the food and entertainment.

OK. The house was built and everyone that was living in it was happy. Then while everyone was on vacation the house caught on fire. The fire department was able to save part of it so some of the people could still live there. Other neighbors built a new and better house before you even thought about rebuilding yours, so they move there. So now answer the question. Without any money how do you rebuild the house when you don't have anyone that wants to move back into a house that is just a burnt down shack?