The 'dreadful' weather... seriously (Buffalo, Rochester: living in, moving, deposits)

[FedupWNY]

Originally Posted by VegasRocks

WNY already has lost more than half it's population.

It's a lie and I'll tell you why it's a lie because the US Census doesn't lie.

Allegany County, New York
Population, 2006 - 50,267
Population, 2000 - 49,927
gain- 340

Cattaraugus County, New York
Population, 2006 - 81,534
Population, 2000 - 83,955
loss- 2,421

Chautauqua County, New York
Population, 2006 - 135,357
Population, 2000 - 139,750
loss- 4,393

Erie County, New York
Population, 2006 - 921,390
Population, 2000 - 950,265
loss- 28,872

Genesee County, New York
Population, 2006 - 58,830
Population, 2000 - 60,370
loss- 1,540

Monroe County, New York
Population, 2006 - 730,807
Population, 2000 - 735,343
loss- 4,536

Niagara County, New York
Population, 2006 - 216,130
Population, 2000 - 219,846
loss- 3,710

Wyoming County, New York
Population, 2006 - 42,613
Population, 2000 - 43,424
loss- 811

Total population (2000) - 2,232,953
total loss (2006) - 46,283

This, not counting Allegany County, New York
Population, 2006 - 50,267
Population, 2000 - 49,927
gained population- 340

Please, be so kind as to explain (in specific) how WNY has lost "more than half it's population" when 2,186,670 people still live in the 8 counties of Western New York? Please, share with us how you've calculated more than 46,000 as a loss of more than half our population.

[MarineFromBuffalo]

Originally Posted by VegasRocks

Maybe you don't, but most of the population likes the sunny dry weather. plus
business's also like the dry climate because they don't have to worry about delays or
interuptions in their communcation's & distrubtions centers.

Arizona, Nevada, & Utah are still the top fastest growing states and
WNY continues to lose population. WNY already has lost more than half it's population.

Throwing false "facts" doesn't make them true. I also bet those business's love spending all that money to pay for the airconditioning of their businesses. Atleast in WNY the winter is the only thing that kills us on heating.

[MarineFromBuffalo]

Speaking of the weather has anyone hit the slopes at Kissing Bridge or Holiday Valley lately? I am hoping the conditions are still going to be good in Feb. when I get home to go snowboarding.

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

Personally, I didn't find the snow to be a problem, it was the overcast days. Not seeing the sun for months, and seeing only shades of grey got old. Summers though are almost as bad-the humidity takes it's toll. I forgot what it was like to take a shower and never dry off until I came back for a visit.

One good point though, the snow and cold keeps the Californian's out.

Bri

[Dockwalliper]

Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake

Personally, I didn't find the snow to be a problem, it was the overcast days. Not seeing the sun for months, and seeing only shades of grey got old.

Bri

What Buffalo are you talking about? This is from Wiki....

Buffalo has the sunniest and driest summers of any major city in the Northeast, but still has enough rain to keep vegetation green and lush. Summers are marked by plentiful sunshine and moderate humidity and temperature. It receives, on average, over 65% of possible sunshine in June, July and August.

The Buffalo News prints the Sunshine Derby in the paper everyday. Buffalo has more sunny days than Orlando Fla. We got a foot of snow overnight and the sun is almost blinding when its hits the white snow like it is today.

[I'minformed2]

Indeed.....Western NY gets more sunshine from June to September than most of the rest of the east coast. In NC (unless its a severe drought year and all the grass is brown) you can expect a strong thunderstorm almost every day...and then when the sun comes out behind it GOOD GOD you haven't experienced unbearable humidity until you've experienced that! Upstate NY humid during summer? Maybe compared to Idaho; but I find the summers in this region to be cakewalk when it comes to humidity compared to what I became used to after 13 years in NC. I had forgotten how amazing summer really can be! Down there; its everyone's LEAST favorite time of the year. Not to mention in Buffalo or Rochester, on those days when it DOES get really hot...you can always head up to Lakes Erie or Ontario (respectively) or down into the hills around the fingerlakes to get temps around 10 degrees cooler.

MONTHS without sunshine is also an exaggeration. From November through mid march yes it is cloudy MOST of the time...but there are always random days scattered throughout the season when the sun will make an appearance.

[VegasRocks]

Just watch the weather channel. It's snowing again in WNY
the wind chills are below 0, plus 8 to 12 inchs of snow & wind, the day before that WNY had 75mph wind gusts (that's hurricane force) the day before that there was severe flooding and flash floods due to all the snow melting so fast do to the tons of snow that fell the day before that. nice weather, huh. The last few summers in WNY have been horrible, rain, cloudy & cool almost everyday, I got more fingers on one hand then how many days it reach over 85.

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

Originally Posted by I'minformed2

Indeed.....Western NY gets more sunshine from June to September than most of the rest of the east coast. In NC (unless its a severe drought year and all the grass is brown) you can expect a strong thunderstorm almost every day...and then when the sun comes out behind it GOOD GOD you haven't experienced unbearable humidity until you've experienced that! Upstate NY humid during summer? Maybe compared to Idaho; but I find the summers in this region to be cakewalk when it comes to humidity compared to what I became used to after 13 years in NC. I had forgotten how amazing summer really can be! Down there; its everyone's LEAST favorite time of the year. Not to mention in Buffalo or Rochester, on those days when it DOES get really hot...you can always head up to Lakes Erie or Ontario (respectively) or down into the hills around the fingerlakes to get temps around 10 degrees cooler.

MONTHS without sunshine is also an exaggeration. From November through mid march yes it is cloudy MOST of the time...but there are always random days scattered throughout the season when the sun will make an appearance.

I agree with you with regard to sunny days in the summer, it was the winter overcast I was talking about. That, and the lack of any color in the winter. At least out here we have lots of evergreen trees, not just the naked branches all winter. It didn't seem that noticable until I came back for a visit in the winter. Something to make you feel better, we got somewhere over 80" of snow in the last 2 weeks here. One thing I do notice in this area (North Idaho), we don't get the strong winds that WNY does, so you don't see the really big drifts even after a big dump. On the other hand we have lots of California transplants whining about snow, and especially about the snowplows pushing berms in their driveways. Crybabies! Too bad they didn't live through the Blizzard of '77.

With regard to summers, when I lived there the humidity didn't bother me that much. After living in the west, with 10-15% RH most of the summer, it was really noticable coming back. That, and the issue that it doesn't cool off much at night. Out here, you may see 100 during a really hot summer day, but in the 60's that night. The flip side, at least you have enough rain in the summer to keep everything green most times, out west the fields in late summer are all burned brown. And no forest fire worries.

[HeadedWest]

Originally Posted by Dockwalliper

Buffalo has more sunny days than Orlando Fla.

I would surely like to see the details of how that's calculated. There is surely a qualitative difference between the daily afternoon thunderstorm in Orland versus what I recall as just endless numbers of winter days in western NY where I never saw a peek of the sun.

[HeadedWest]

Originally Posted by I'minformed2

Upstate NY humid during summer? Maybe compared to Idaho...

and Montana and Wyoming and Colorado and New Mexico and Arizona and Utah and California, plus parts of many other states.