City neighborhoods (Buffalo, Cheektowaga, Clinton: real estate, city hall, countertops)

[mikesuicide]

Originally Posted by Urban Peasant

Really nice map! Very detailed and informative. The only things I would disagree with or want to change is to make Richmond Avenue the border between the West Side and the Elmwood Strip rather than Elmwood Avenue itself and perhaps make Elmwood Avenue the border between North Buffalo and Black Rock. When looking at Google Maps, streets such as Norwood Avenue, Ashland Avenue, and even Richmond Avenue itself look too pleasant and beautiful to fit in the West Side, which does look rundown in many parts.

Ashland, Elmwood and Richmond ARE in the west side.

[mikesuicide]

Originally Posted by mycrows

Just to be clear, I said that I felt the reputation for racism was justified, not that they were justified in being racists. True, I am only basing that off the 3 or 4 conversations I've had with Lovejoy residents. But the fact that racist attitudes surface in these kind of everyday conversations leads me to believe there's a real racial tension present around there. So yes, my opinion may not be worth as much as yours but it is what it is. If you know so much about Lovejoy maybe you should stop being coy and share it?

The last time I was there was a couple of months ago. What's your point? Has there been meaningful change since then? The only reason I threw that qualifier in was because I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the businesses I named have closed. I might hang out in Lovejoy more often, but the fact that everyone is worried about "the blacks" moving in makes me a little uncomfortable.

The blacks are already in...in the form of little white kids that emmulate them yet hate them....a curious type of hypocrites dont you think?

[mycrows]

Originally Posted by mikesuicide

The blacks are already in...in the form of little white kids that emmulate them yet hate them....a curious type of hypocrites dont you think?

I haven't been to Lovejoy within the last 24 hours, so I really shouldn't give any opinions on the subject. I wouldn't want FedUpWNY to deconstruct my post again.

Where'd he go, anyway? I thought he was going to come back and give us the straight dope about the neighborhood?? He knows Lovejoy, man.

[ckhthankgod]

Here's another neighborhoods map of Buffalo:http://www.ci.buffalo.ny.us/files/1_...s_comunity.pdf

[ckhthankgod]

By the way, I found out that the first map is from 1968. http://www.buffaloah.com/h/maps/maps.html

[Urban Peasant]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

Here's another neighborhoods map of Buffalo:http://www.ci.buffalo.ny.us/files/1_...s_comunity.pdf

This map is awful. It has too many subdivisions. I like the other one much better.

[Urban Peasant]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

By the way, I found out that the first map is from 1968. Buffalo maps

It may have originated in 1968 but if you read the date at the bottom of the page, you will find that it was last updated in January of 2009 so it is still considered current by some people.

[ocean2026]

I was still hoping someone would come on and discuss or rank the different neighborhoods for livability beauty or something.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by ocean2026

I was still hoping someone would come on and discuss or rank the different neighborhoods for livability beauty or something.

From what I've heard so far, North Buffalo, Elmwood, South Buffalo, Kaisertown, Riverside, Delaware District, Allentown and parts of Black Rock are fine.

[BuffaloTransplant]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

Here's another neighborhoods map of Buffalo:http://www.ci.buffalo.ny.us/files/1_...s_comunity.pdf

This is much more reasonable!