Not happy about moving to the area (Buffalo, Amherst: credit, transfer)

[CAugust]

amherst going down hill? some parts yes - williamsville no ....

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by CAugust

amherst going down hill? some parts yes - williamsville no ....

What parts of Amherst are going "down hill", besides the Allenhurst Apartments area?

[Canerican]

Originally Posted by CAugust

amherst going down hill? some parts yes - williamsville no ....

I think Williamsville going downhill is inevitable (I don't really see what is so great about Williamsville anyway). As housing prices go down in the area with more and more people leaving the county, some city people will look to the suburbs for a better life, and proceed to ruin neighborhoods.

It's kind of weird I talk to more and more people who live in Amherst that say they are going to Sanborn, Clarence Center, Middleport, etc. because they don't like how Amherst is going down... don't really blame them.

Good for the real estate agents though, they can blockbust, and make a killing . In all honesty, I can't understand how some of my neighbors got to live in Getzville. The neighborhood that I am in had a very good complexion, now we have a few unsavory folks around...

[Port North]

Originally Posted by Canerican

I think Williamsville going downhill is inevitable (I don't really see what is so great about Williamsville anyway). As housing prices go down in the area with more and more people leaving the county, some city people will look to the suburbs for a better life, and proceed to ruin neighborhoods.

It's kind of weird I talk to more and more people who live in Amherst that say they are going to Sanborn, Clarence Center, Middleport, etc. because they don't like how Amherst is going down... don't really blame them.

Good for the real estate agents though, they can blockbust, and make a killing . In all honesty, I can't understand how some of my neighbors got to live in Getzville. The neighborhood that I am in had a very good complexion, now we have a few unsavory folks around...

People will eventually get used to more racially diverse neighborhoods as long as they don't include the underclass. My school district on Long Island is about 30% minority (Black, Hispanic, Asian) but yet the population of white students is still increasing and it is considered a desirable district. This doesn't seem logical by WNY standards but is true in many larger metro areas across the country (Long Island, NJ, Northern Virginia, etc.).

If a place Williamsville gets run down then it will mean the downfall of the entire WNY area. Urban/inner suburban living is becoming more popular nationally and you won't have a prayer of attracting high income educated outsiders to the area if the only desirable school districts are out in sticks of Sanborn or Marilla. People in Great Lakes cities have this habit of moving further and further out to escape people moving in from the city. While in places like NYC the poor and working class are the ones having to move further and further out in order to find affordable housing. Two different worlds that's for sure!

[CAugust]

Originally Posted by Canerican

I think Williamsville going downhill is inevitable (I don't really see what is so great about Williamsville anyway). As housing prices go down in the area with more and more people leaving the county, some city people will look to the suburbs for a better life, and proceed to ruin neighborhoods.

It's kind of weird I talk to more and more people who live in Amherst that say they are going to Sanborn, Clarence Center, Middleport, etc. because they don't like how Amherst is going down... don't really blame them.

Good for the real estate agents though, they can blockbust, and make a killing . In all honesty, I can't understand how some of my neighbors got to live in Getzville. The neighborhood that I am in had a very good complexion, now we have a few unsavory folks around...

Williamsville is pretty popular basically because the school system has a good reputation, thats why most people move there and housing prices have not dropped there, so I dont know what you are referring to.

As far as Clarence center, people are moving there yes, but its the same as Williamsville, only more expensive - again, people move to Clarence for basically two things, the schools and taxes, but they will pay more for a home more often than not.

Blockbusting???? Do you know the definition? Here it is

Blockbusting was a practice used by real estate agents and developers in the United States to encourage white property owners to sell their homes ...

How does that come into play? I dont know one agent that does this .... I would never ever do anything like that .. you do realize that not only is it a terrible thing to do, but its illegal? Not to mention entirely untrue when it comes to Williamsville, specifically. Home prices have certainly not dropped in that area, as a matter of fact, i am surprised they have continued to stay as high as they have and they keep going up, but not through the roof like some other states.

OK - now is this turning racial? because if it is, I am so out of the conversation ...... please clarify .....

[Canerican]

Not racial... but you know what blockbusting is. It makes sense for this area, you have many 100% White neighborhoods, if I was a less-than-honest real estate agent, I know of a very quick way to make a buck.

Just give some less than savory person a large cash gift, or interest-free loan, and bam, you've got 5 houses.

Giving the poor economy, I think it is more likely.

[ahat31]

OK - now is this turning racial? because if it is, I am so out of the conversation ...... please clarify .....[/quote]


It feels like it is to me too, not feeling comfortable about it either. From some other posts, I received the impression that Buffalo was not a racial area. People of color moving to particular areas does not mean that area is getting bad!!

[Canerican]

Originally Posted by ahat31

It feels like it is to me too, not feeling comfortable about it either. From some other posts, I received the impression that Buffalo was not a racial area. People of color moving to particular areas does not mean that area is getting bad!!

No, not necessarily. I just don't want trashy folks in my neighborhood, White, hispanic, black.

Just because the trashier people in the area tend to be the blacks (or coloreds, if you want to say that), doesn't make anything racist/ racial.

In all fairness, if I had a White neighbor that behaved badly, had loud parties, left trash out, we would probably get to together with a couple neighbors, and try and get them out (call the police on every little thing, be generally annoying to this bad neighbor). We like our neighborhood, and we will make sure that the composure of it doesn't go downhill... it is a nice neighborhood, all the houses cost a decent amount (about $250,000-$450,000), we want to keep it nice, and so does the Town of Amherst, since they kind of rely on our taxes...

[CAugust]

Originally Posted by ahat31

OK - now is this turning racial? because if it is, I am so out of the conversation ...... please clarify .....

Ok, let me clarify Williamsville and East Amherst are probably the most diverse suburbs around here .... my children are friends with I dont know how many different children with different backgrounds, be it religion or race. I have never heard a racial slur here in the 10 years Ive been around.

As far as trash goes, trash of any color would find it difficult to purchase a home here. Normally when you think of trash, you think of a person that probably doesnt have good credit, among other things - hence, will not qualify for a mortgage .... takes care of that nonsense .....

I assure you imho this area is not racist at all ....... very diverse....again, just my opinion.

[jblake78728]

Originally Posted by ahat31

OK - now is this turning racial? because if it is, I am so out of the conversation ...... please clarify .....


It feels like it is to me too, not feeling comfortable about it either. From some other posts, I received the impression that Buffalo was not a racial area. People of color moving to particular areas does not mean that area is getting bad!!

I haven't found racism to be a big thing in this area. I've lived in Texas, Colorado, PA & other areas of NY & I can assure you that the Buffalo metro area is the most racially tolerant area I've lived in. You need to consider the source. I don't know whether Canerican is a racist or just has trouble expressing his view without sounding racist but if you look over his posting history he has a bad habit of making things a black/white issue & when he gets called on it he issues his standard "I just don't want trashy folks in my neighborhood, White, Hispanic, Black" response or he provides facts & figures that are typically used by the Religious Right fringe groups to fire up their base.