Where are Buffalonians fleeing to? (New York, Amherst: sales, neighborhoods, best school)

[Canerican]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

According to what?

The Census Bureau...

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by Canerican

The Census Bureau...

Can you show us the information? This shows that it has slowed somewhat the last couple of years: http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet...EST_G2008_T001

[georgiamom25]

Its not that Buffalo is bad. The politicians there are enough to make anyone want to leave. The weather is bearable and there are lots of things to do. We just moved to Southern Georgia and there are no lawn fetes, no nearby 6 flags, no marina, no niagara falls. There are things that we miss but overall we like our new address. I would have to say that 99% of the people who left did so because it's so political and the govt officials are killing the economy. It was cheap to live in Buffalo in the 90s. Not anymore. Everything down here is cheaper and that wasn't the case when I entered the job market. If you moved to Buffalo and don't mind bad politics and some cold weather you would do fine, if you could find a job. The politicians are forcing companies out by not offering low cost electricity, fuel taxes for csx, and all the medicaid is killing it up there. I wish we were never forced to move but it isn't so bad in this heat. we are swimming in october.

[georgiamom25]

Originally Posted by Town&Country

Interesting... Lancaster/Town Line/Alden are my target area's to move Back to.

My house in lancaster is still for sale. 4 bd, 2 1/2 bath, brand new great room, very nice house. there is a stocked pond 2 houses down. heated above ground pool. Appraised at 275k. selling for 239k. call barb at 7164323373 if interested.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by georgiamom25

Its not that Buffalo is bad. The politicians there are enough to make anyone want to leave. The weather is bearable and there are lots of things to do. We just moved to Southern Georgia and there are no lawn fetes, no nearby 6 flags, no marina, no niagara falls. There are things that we miss but overall we like our new address. I would have to say that 99% of the people who left did so because it's so political and the govt officials are killing the economy. It was cheap to live in Buffalo in the 90s. Not anymore. Everything down here is cheaper and that wasn't the case when I entered the job market. If you moved to Buffalo and don't mind bad politics and some cold weather you would do fine, if you could find a job. The politicians are forcing companies out by not offering low cost electricity, fuel taxes for csx, and all the medicaid is killing it up there. I wish we were never forced to move but it isn't so bad in this heat. we are swimming in october.

Just wondering...How are the schools? Also, are there any costs that are higher there versus up here? How's the crime?

[House4Sale]

This one moved to S. Florida. I missed Buffalo terribly the first two years but got over it. I hear the taxes are horrible back home and the entire state is a welfare state. Sad what politicians are doing to our country. Pretty much forcing us to go elsewhere just to make it. There is a Judgement Day and they will be held accountable.

[georgiamom25]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

Just wondering...How are the schools? Also, are there any costs that are higher there versus up here? How's the crime?

I teach and the school I am in is night and day to NY. The district my kids are in so far is fantastic. Their class sizes are similar, very structured, lots of opportunities to join clubs, field trips, and pretty good curriculums. There are also gifted and talented programs which NY doesn't seem to have in many schools. There are a lot of differences, corporal punishment and religion in the schools (we are still adapting to this difference). Overall, the schools are good. Kids here are highly into sports. Very competitive and year round. There is no such thing as recreational sports in the middle school. You work hard and play hard here. My kids said they would never want to go back to Buffalo. It was shocking to hear them say that.

[georgiamom25]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

Just wondering...How are the schools? Also, are there any costs that are higher there versus up here? How's the crime?

Crime is very low here and nothing is higher here than in Buffalo. Groceries are equivalent. Gas is about 40 cents a gallon cheaper. Taxes on houses are way lower than NY. Registering a car is a lot cheaper but they have that luxury tax on your birthday every year.

[Canerican]

Originally Posted by georgiamom25

I teach and the school I am in is night and day to NY. The district my kids are in so far is fantastic. Their class sizes are similar, very structured, lots of opportunities to join clubs, field trips, and pretty good curriculums. There are also gifted and talented programs which NY doesn't seem to have in many schools. There are a lot of differences, corporal punishment and religion in the schools (we are still adapting to this difference). Overall, the schools are good. Kids here are highly into sports. Very competitive and year round. There is no such thing as recreational sports in the middle school. You work hard and play hard here. My kids said they would never want to go back to Buffalo. It was shocking to hear them say that.

That's what I have been saying. Some folks on this board say "Buffalo has high taxes, but the school systems in the South are terrible." I have constantly and consistently defended them as I am aware that with a couple of exceptions, most school districts in major Southern cities are just as good or better than Buffalo's.

Another fallacy that people on this board claim is that "Southerners are nice to your face, but they all will talk about you behind your back and secretly hate you." Could you please debunk that fallacy as well?

There are so many untruths about the South being thrown around on this board, it's nice to see an ex-Buffalonian being honest about it.

I'll admit, Georgia isn't my favorite state, but I would take Georgia over Buffalo in a heartbeat.

[jblake78728]

I don't think anyone has ever specifically knocked Georgia's public school system but it's your lie so tell it anyway you like. I do think that Georgia's public school system has gotten much better over the last decade but its a fact that NY, California, Massachusetts, Virginia & Maryland lead the way in AP course attendance & success (all those states have over 20% of their students scoring at mastery on AP exams, Georgia, Florida & NC are in the mid to high teens while the rest of the south lags far behind. Any simple search will turn up all the stats).

For the original poster of this subject to claim "There are also gifted and talented programs which NY doesn't seem to have in many schools" is utterly ridiculous & a flat out lie as 75% of NY high schools offer AP courses.

Nearly one-quarter of the state's public school graduates in 2008 received a score of 3 or better on at least one Advanced Placement exam, making New York the second-ranked state in the nation for AP success, according to a report released today by The College Board.

A score of 3, 4 or 5 on an AP exam indicates students can succeed at college-level work. The College Board offers more than 30 AP courses in the nation's high schools, with culminating exams given each May.

In New York, 23.3 percent of last year's graduates earned a 3 or better on an AP test in high school. Maryland had 23.4 percent of its 2008 graduates meet the same criteria. The national average was 15.2 percent.

New York second in students taking AP exams | News from The Post-Standard -


35.4% of NY's class of 2008 took at least 1 AP exam (the national average is 25%)

NY's numbers were 34% in 2007 & 30.9% in 2003 (the national average was 22.4% & 20.6% in those years)

African American student participation was more than double the national average in 2008 7.9% to 3.6%

23.3% of NY students earned a 3 of higher (national average 15.2%)

http://www.collegeboard.com/html/apr...X1a_081223.pdf



Then there is graduation rates, Canerican's be all end all with regards to the public school system .........

Georgia’s dismal high school graduation rate has reached a “crisis” level, according to a national report released Wednesday. The authors recommended immediate federal action.

Researchers found that one-third of Georgia high schools have low graduation rates and that those 130 schools are not limited to urban areas: 32 are located in cities, 36 are in the suburbs and 37 are in rural areas.


Georgia was one of five states with the worst graduation rates. The others are Florida, Nevada, New Mexico and South Carolina.

State's high school graduation rate in 'crisis' *| ajc.com