How would you rate the City of Buffalo, on a scale of 1 to 5 (Rochester: how much, job market)

[Central Illinois 1]

I'm giving it 3 stars. It is just OK and on par with other cities that i have visited like Cincinnati, Columbus, and Indy. In other words, it is no NYC, Chicago or LA (those are pretty much first rate cities or "5"s), it is no Miami, Cleveland, or St. Louis (they seem to have alot more and I would rate them as "4"s), but it is better than places like Ft. Wayne, Rochester, or Des Moines ("2" s). Its pretty average based on my visits there. I love watching the NFL and I always had alot of admiration for the Bills and their fans, but all I can say though is that the Bills are on their way down. Sorry guys...TO has done nothing more over the years than bring teams down. He is divisive. Every team that he has played for has been on the cusp of greatness and has quickly went to sh_t once he got there. You will not win with TO and he will cause the same problems in Buffalo that he caused in San Francisco, Philadelphia, and Dallas. How many Super Bowls did these teams win when he was there? You don't need alot of (any...) fingers to count these up ....You know the answer....ZERO..Sorry, TO is an ass and a loser.

[jblake78728]

I agree with your rating of a 3, why you rated it that way & the way you laid it out. Good comparison IMO.


The Bills aren't on their way down they are & have been down. Whether you like his attitude or not it doesn't change the fact that TO is still one of the top receivers in the game & his stats support that. What happens between him & teammates behind the closed doors of the locker room may be another matter entirely but based on sheer athletic ability he is one of the best. The Bills chances at a playoff run this year are slim & none. The only reason they acquired TO was for the publicity because even with his explosiveness at WR they are still not a playoff team. It is a no lose situation for RWJr, either the Bills get lucky & somehow manage to get into the playoffs in which case Ralph will be hailed as a hero for bringing in TO or they continue to suck which most people already believe will happen anyway.

[TheWhale]

Originally Posted by Canerican

Great post Whale!

Thank you, you too.

[nva79]

I know this is a little random, but outside of the Sabres and Bills, who do people from Buffalo root for in baseball and basketball? Toronto, New York, Pittsburgh? Boston? I don't know, I'm just curius.

[City of Motor]

Originally Posted by jazzy jeff 11

3 sounds pretty decent. We arent bad like detroit but we do have some good neighborhoods and attractions.

You understand that Detroiters aren't just on our forum. I'm watching you, buddy.
seriously, though. Buffalo...3. It's not as good or as big as any major US city, but not small enough to be Aspen, or Flint.

[Central Illinois 1]

Originally Posted by jblake78728

I agree with your rating of a 3, why you rated it that way & the way you laid it out. Good comparison IMO.


The Bills aren't on their way down they are & have been down. Whether you like his attitude or not it doesn't change the fact that TO is still one of the top receivers in the game & his stats support that. What happens between him & teammates behind the closed doors of the locker room may be another matter entirely but based on sheer athletic ability he is one of the best. The Bills chances at a playoff run this year are slim & none. The only reason they acquired TO was for the publicity because even with his explosiveness at WR they are still not a playoff team. It is a no lose situation for RWJr, either the Bills get lucky & somehow manage to get into the playoffs in which case Ralph will be hailed as a hero for bringing in TO or they continue to suck which most people already believe will happen anyway.

Maybe he can't do as much damage in Buffalo then as he did in the other places. But he's definitely not going to be a morale builder for the team either.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by Central Illinois 1

Maybe he can't do as much damage in Buffalo then as he did in the other places. But he's definitely not going to be a morale builder for the team either.

I will say that everywhere he has gone, that first year, he produces and isn't as big of an issue. I think that's why it was good that he signed a 1 year deal with the Bills.

[Buffalonian4life]

Originally Posted by nva79

I know this is a little random, but outside of the Sabres and Bills, who do people from Buffalo root for in baseball and basketball? Toronto, New York, Pittsburgh? Boston? I don't know, I'm just curius.

Philly, NY, Boston for Baseball. Similar for basketball.

[jblake78728]

Originally Posted by nva79

I know this is a little random, but outside of the Sabres and Bills, who do people from Buffalo root for in baseball and basketball? Toronto, New York, Pittsburgh? Boston? I don't know, I'm just curius.

I like the Mets (but I'm not originally from Buffalo). Mets, Yankees, Indians & Red Sox seem to be the most popular at least in terms of who's gear I've seen people sporting. Pirates & Jays both also have a following but I haven't noticed anywhere near the amount of fans as the other teams mentioned. In basketball I see a lot of Knicks, Celtics & Cavs fans, not much else other than your random Laker fan.

[BuffaloLight]

I voted a 3 because I like zone 5B. :P Since there was no real standard set it kinda makes this poll a little pointless since it's open to personal opinion. I can't understand how Buffalo could really be a 1. I 2 I can understand. I would vote New York NY a 3 also because it's just not for me. My 5 city would be Liverpool, I really liked it there.