12 Blacks attack White person in a hate crime (Buffalo, Boston: appointed, schools)

[Canerican]

Originally Posted by TheWhale

I've not only seen it I've lived it.
I attended high school in Buffalo where close to half the students were black.

Anyone that says that whites and black are anything close to equal in terms of violence committed against other races is either brain dead, clueless to the facts or a bald faced liar.

I was talking to someone who went to a White school in Buffalo that said that when they went through the black neighborhood on the bus they had to close all the windows, because the blacks would throw rocks through the windows, for no good reason. Yet, the White race is still the violent one.

Such dishonesty is why blacks have been confined to the lowest jobs in society. Asians and hispanics, who are far newer to America, have advanced well past blacks in terms of success, and for good reason. Those groups WANT to do well. Blacks want to sit at home on welfare, and then complain that they aren't as rich as those putting in their 40 hours.

All I can say is that living well is the best revenge.

[TheWhale]

On slavery.
Slavery was an accepted practice at that point in history.
All races were guilty of it, blacks included.
In fact black africans were selling the slaves to white americans.

The United States took the lead in abolishing a crime that went on for thousands of years.
No one here can say for certain that their ancestors at some point in the past weren't subjected to slavery.

The main point though is that no black in this country today is a victim of slavery and no white is guilty of owning slaves.

Are these excuses still going to be used 100 years from now?

[Canerican]

Originally Posted by Rackie

This climate of hate in America wasnt the product of Blacks or Hispanics. Whats funny is many of the people in Buffalo are descendants from European immigrants in the last 100 years and only perpetrated this hate to be accepted in American society. Blacks in western NY have been severely discriminated against in the job market for decades.

I feel bad for the kid, but this is the culture that places like this breeds. Western NY is 30 years behind the progressive parts of America with regards to race relations and civil culture.

Blame the victim. It's his fault that these animals attacked him.

When will the blacks be happy? When we give them all of our money? When we give them our houses?

They will never be happy. They will never meet the standard of living of Whites because they don't care to try. All they want to do is take money from the Whites through welfare and through outright theft.

Crimes like this are extremely uncommon for Whites to commit, but blacks commit them all of them. It's gang violence.

[TheWhale]

Originally Posted by Rackie

This climate of hate in America wasnt the product of Blacks or Hispanics. Whats funny is many of the people in Buffalo are descendants from European immigrants in the last 100 years and only perpetrated this hate to be accepted in American society. Blacks in western NY have been severely discriminated against in the job market for decades.

I feel bad for the kid, but this is the culture that places like this breeds. Western NY is 30 years behind the progressive parts of America with regards to race relations and civil culture.

That is not the case at all.
I used to pick up my father at the Chevy plant on Delevan when his car was in the shop, that place was loaded with black employees.

All of those people had better jobs then I'll ever have.

[TheWhale]

Another point is this, your job status is no excuse for violence.
I have been jobless and flat broke more than once.
I never committed a violent crime as a result of it.
It never crossed my mind, I just don't see the connection at all.
You'll need to explain that to me.

How does that go?
I'm out of work and broke so the thing to do is go out and find someone to shoot or stab or beat the hell out of with a baseball bat?
Where is the connection?

[Orwelleaut]

Originally Posted by TheWhale

I've not only seen it I've lived it.
I attended high school in Buffalo where close to half the students were black.

Anyone that says that whites and black are anything close to equal in terms of violence committed against other races is either brain dead, clueless to the facts or a bald faced liar.

I've never understood why whites who have not had the experience of attending a school with large numbers of blacks will not believe us when we tell them the realities of our schooling experience. Like yourself, I attended a high school with large numbers of blacks. This was in the late 1980's. The general theme was blacks bullying anyone who wasn't black, picking on us and teasing us mercilessly if we didn't act black, and showing a total disprespect for anyone who wasn't black.

Until I had this school experience, I had not paid much attention to a person being black, as my parents had taught me that I should not judge a person based on the color of their skin. After this schooling experience, however, I saw things differently, and have ever since. The reality is that most blacks are horribly bigoted, intolerant individuals, who have no problem being cruel to anyone who is not black, and enjoy doing this simply because we are not black. Why the blacks have not been expected to show more human decency as a group is beyond comprehension. They should be expected to behave like everyone else, and should not be allowed to be narrow minded, bigoted, hateful individuals when everyone else learns that these behaviors are wrong. Some blacks are fine individuals who choose to engage in better behaviors and to rise above this stuff, but these black people, I hate to say, are far too few in number.

The latest event in Buffalo, which is a first class example of a racially motivated hate crime, is a first class example of what all of us who are not black, and who have had to spend time around large numbers of blacks, have had to go through for the past several decades. These violent black males who committed this hate crime need to be all over the national media as a prime example of the small-minded, hateful, highly racist mentality that the majority of American blacks still have in the 21'st century, and how this mentality should not be treated as acceptable by white liberals. Bullies are always wrong, and it is due time that the bullying of everyone else by the blacks is put to a stop once and for all.

[TheWhale]

Originally Posted by Orwelleaut

I've never understood why whites who have not had the experience of attending a school with large numbers of blacks will not believe us when we tell them the realities of our schooling experience. Like yourself, I attended a high school with large numbers of blacks. This was in the late 1980's. The general theme was blacks bullying anyone who wasn't black, picking on us and teasing us mercilessly if we didn't act black, and showing a total disprespect for anyone who wasn't black.

Until I had this school experience, I had not paid much attention to a person being black, as my parents had taught me that I should not judge a person based on the color of their skin. After this schooling experience, however, I saw things differently, and have ever since. The reality is that most blacks are horribly bigoted, intolerant individuals, who have no problem being cruel to anyone who is not black, and enjoy doing this simply because we are not black. Why the blacks have not been expected to show more human decency as a group is beyond comprehension. They should be expected to behave like everyone else, and should not be allowed to be narrow minded, bigoted, hateful individuals when everyone else learns that these behaviors are wrong. Some blacks are fine individuals who choose to engage in better behaviors and to rise above this stuff, but these black people, I hate to say, are far too few in number.

The latest event in Buffalo, which is a first class example of a racially motivated hate crime, is a first class example of what all of us who are not black, and who have had to spend time around large numbers of blacks, have had to go through for the past several decades. These violent black males who committed this hate crime need to be all over the national media as a prime example of the small-minded, hateful, highly racist mentality that the majority of American blacks still have in the 21'st century, and how this mentality should not be treated as acceptable by white liberals. Bullies are always wrong, and it is due time that the bullying of everyone else by the blacks is put to a stop once and for all.

In the high school I went to it went to...

There were race riots incited by blacks on a regular basis.
There were several stabbings.
There were dozens of occasions where the front lawn of the school was covered with dozens of Buffalo police cars.
And I mean dozens.

Taking the city bus back home was probably the most dangerous thing I've ever done.
Missing the bus would have been a disaster because it would have left you at the bus stop alone.

No flamer liberal has any place trying to educate me or anyone with a similar background on races.
I lived it.

For a lot of whites today schools are like a community center with all kinds of activities day and night.
These people aren't exposed to what we were.
School was a place you wanted to get the hell out of and make it home without being jumped.

[jblake78728]

Sounds like you grew up in the 60's or maybe 70's. I only say that because you mention stabbings but not shootings. Well I went to high school in the age when it was cool to bring a gun to school but the schools lacked the resources (or in some cases took the it cant happen here attitude) to really be able to do anything about it. Funny thing is most of those mass school shootings were committed by white kids.

I grew up in a city that was/is 65% black & went to an urban high school that was about 80% black until I finished 10th grade. My family moved to the "white suburbs" at that time where the high school had maybe 10 black kids out of 800 students. I've seen both sides of the situation. In the inner city I've seen white kids gets get harassed & beat up, some for no apparent reason others because they didn't know how to act or when to shut their mouths. I had exactly 1 fist fight with a black kid in my life (I can't even remember how many fights I've had with other white kids) & I'll readily admit I threw the first punch. I never had a problem with blacks (and several in my family are old school southern racists so I heard it all from a very early age on), I treated them as equals & showed their culture & their people respect .... and for the most part I received the same in return. On the other hand, I've seen a black kid beaten to a pulp & stuffed in a trash can by pretty much the whole varsity basketball team just because he wanted to try out & they felt threatened. I've also seen plenty of black kids jumped by whites for just talking to white girls.

Maybe in the Buffalo public school system something else is going on, I really can't say as I never attend school in Buffalo ..... but in the rest of the country the problem & blame is very much 2 sided.

[TheWhale]

I want you to go do a little research on the stabbing of a high school student named John Boogamiel(sp).
They stuffed him under the seat of the city bus he was riding after they killed him.

They reported on the local news (tv) that the mother of one of the black perpetrators asked the cops let him finish is supper when they came to the house to arrest him.

He graduate with my older brother from Queen of Peace , a catholic elementary on Genesee in Buffalo.

[Urban Peasant]

Originally Posted by TheWhale

In the high school I went to it went to...

There were race riots incited by blacks on a regular basis.
There were several stabbings.
There were dozens of occasions where the front lawn of the school was covered with dozens of Buffalo police cars.
And I mean dozens.

Taking the city bus back home was probably the most dangerous thing I've ever done.
Missing the bus would have been a disaster because it would have left you at the bus stop alone.

No flamer liberal has any place trying to educate me or anyone with a similar background on races.
I lived it.

For a lot of whites today schools are like a community center with all kinds of activities day and night.
These people aren't exposed to what we were.
School was a place you wanted to get the hell out of and make it home without being jumped.

Yep, that sounds a lot like Boston in the 1970's and early 1980's. There were race riots, racial fights, and yes people throwing rocks at school buses. Much of the trouble was brewed by court ordered busing in '74 but the roots of the trouble already started in the late 1960's around the death of MLK Jr. Buffalo was probably not much different. Why it isn't so now is because practically all the Whites left the city schools in disgust, I taught at a school that was 98% Black and Hispanic in a really rough ghetto neighborhood last year. Yet that same school in that same neighborhood used to be predominantly White and a lot safer 40 to 50 years ago.

It is no use running from the trouble anymore though. Kids need to stay in a place where they can be nurtured healthily and not have to live in fear. Schools need to be revamped and more importantly opportunities need to be provided for youth. Unfortunately, Buffalo is not in the healthiest economic state right now so I don't see how it can provide help to so many needy individuals.