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Unread 09-17-2009, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Syracuse
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I've heard that SU is dumping money into the area, which is awesome.

Take note, this is what private funds can do.
I agree with this actually and while having state or public entities are necessary, I think that is the way to go in order to grow for Upstate NY.

What's also interesting is that SUNY Upstate medical Center is expanding and is running the biotech center that is being built on an old housing project. So, we are seeing both private and public investment in the city of Syracuse, luckily.
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Unread 09-17-2009, 08:23 PM
 
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I agree with this actually and while having state or public entities are necessary, I think that is the way to go in order to grow for Upstate NY.

What's also interesting is that SUNY Upstate medical Center is expanding and is running the biotech center that is being built on an old housing project. So, we are seeing both private and public investment in the city of Syracuse, luckily.
They are building a medical center for UB downtown too. It makes sense, given the fact that most cardiology in the area happens at Buffalo General, and many students at UB are going for medicine.

It seems like right now the only thing we can get in Buffalo is government projects. No private companies like Buffalo, and why would they? The workers here will unionized as soon as they can, and drive up labor costs. Add that to high taxes, and you have a recipe to scare away 90% of prospective businesses.

It really ticks me off, we have News 7, who resisted unionization, and Louis Slaughter and Brian Higgins both went after them. It's like when a business says, "if we unionize, we will have to close," the politicians say, "fine! Businesses are bad anyway!"

It seriously is retarded logic that our government has. Maybe it would work in the 30s-70s, when you could argue unions were vital and essential to employees, but not now.
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Unread 09-20-2009, 06:27 PM
 
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They are building a medical center for UB downtown too. It makes sense, given the fact that most cardiology in the area happens at Buffalo General, and many students at UB are going for medicine.

It seems like right now the only thing we can get in Buffalo is government projects. No private companies like Buffalo, and why would they? The workers here will unionized as soon as they can, and drive up labor costs. Add that to high taxes, and you have a recipe to scare away 90% of prospective businesses.

It really ticks me off, we have News 7, who resisted unionization, and Louis Slaughter and Brian Higgins both went after them. It's like when a business says, "if we unionize, we will have to close," the politicians say, "fine! Businesses are bad anyway!"

It seriously is retarded logic that our government has. Maybe it would work in the 30s-70s, when you could argue unions were vital and essential to employees, but not now.

Did you see the CSEA unionized Erie County workers rallying outside the Rath Building this week? They're complaining because Collins wants them to start paying for some of their health insurance. Don't these people realize that employees who work in the private sector don't get free health care?! Someone should tell them to get with reality. They ought to be fortunate they have these government jobs and now they want everything on a silver platter? When times are tough, government must cut back too! (for the better IMO)
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Unread 09-20-2009, 08:47 PM
 
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I was talking to someone working for the Town of Amherst and their new contract says that they have to be covered for LASIC surgery. He bragged that he was getting the "Cadillac of healthcare."

I wanted to say ask him why I have to pay for that, when you see workers working 7 hour days, and making far more than me, all on my dime (half the time they are working they are just standing around).

Way to go Erie County, attract the unions, and act surprised when they run the town down.

I wish we could do like 80% of other states and just use far more efficient private contractors. But that would cause the unemployment numbers to rise, because there would be far fewer inefficient government workers, and NYS doesn't want to offend the unions, or save the taxpayer any money (after all, we are only rich by the benevolence of the state, and our tax dollars go to help the "needy union workers" so we should be glad to pay it)

Yeah, Gov. Paterson, keep looking for why people are leaving... I'd say look at yourself in the mirror, but that might be pointless.
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