Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > Buffalo area
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-23-2009, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
3,970 posts, read 5,762,977 times
Reputation: 4721

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by donbuy View Post
An Ikea would never work in a downtown setting - they are always surrounded by a sea of suface parking. They also sell crappy put together dorm furniture. I think Buffalo is shooting for something a little more upscale and not a giant sized Dollar General with meatballs which is all IKEA is.
Actually IKEA does have stores in downtown areas but not in the US. It has a store in Hong Kong's Tsim Sha Tsui district and believe me there is no parking there! That said, I understand that IKEA puts a lot of effort into building new stores which is why they are concerned about growing markets. If there ever was an IKEA in the Buffalo Area, it would most likely be shunted out to Amherst, maybe on Sheridan Drive or somewhere closer to UB.

Downtown Buffalo would benefit more with a Neiman Marcus or something like that in my opinion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-23-2009, 10:33 PM
 
744 posts, read 1,767,315 times
Reputation: 526
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Peasant View Post

Downtown Buffalo would benefit more with a Neiman Marcus or something like that in my opinion.
Agree, it will be interesting to see what sort of retailers Benderson has in mind for Canalside. I know that a large bookstore is part of their plan, other than that who knows.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-25-2009, 11:27 AM
 
93,185 posts, read 123,783,345 times
Reputation: 18253
Quote:
Originally Posted by donbuy View Post
Agree, it will be interesting to see what sort of retailers Benderson has in mind for Canalside. I know that a large bookstore is part of their plan, other than that who knows.
Maybe places like the ones on this site would work for Canalside: COR Companies | COR Center, Clay NY
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-25-2009, 04:45 PM
 
112 posts, read 282,485 times
Reputation: 40
Benderson's good for building strip plaza's all over WNY
that are empty, some have never been rented and have been vacant
for 10 or 15 years or even longer, Benderson even moved their corperate
headquarters from Buffalo to Florida a couple of years ago.
That should tell you something.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-25-2009, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Buffalo
13 posts, read 35,424 times
Reputation: 13
I'd rather see an H&M, Zara, Le Chateau, Scetchers, Nordstrom, and other retailers that we don't have in this region. And BTW, Ikea doesn't ALWAYS surround itself with a sea of parking. Have you visited the Ikea in Brooklyn? No surface lots around that one.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-25-2009, 07:40 PM
 
1,515 posts, read 3,331,257 times
Reputation: 450
Quote:
I'd rather see an H&M, Zara, Le Chateau, Scetchers, Nordstrom, and other retailers that we don't have in this region. And BTW, Ikea doesn't ALWAYS surround itself with a sea of parking. Have you visited the Ikea in Brooklyn? No surface lots around that one.
Brooklyn is alot different from Buffalo. If you want to be accessible to the majority of low to medium income New Yorkers, you need to either be off the Subway, or at least a PATH train. In Buffalo, you just need to be within 15 miles of the city.

The reason Ikea didn't (and never will) build a store in Buffalo, is because if they choose to locate in the area, they'll go to an area where they can get more land, for cheaper, more accessibly, and with more parking.

As to the other stores, they are what actually makes sense to bring to the waterfront. They don't have high transportation or storage costs, and people only make occasional trips to them. You need all three to be successful at the waterfront.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-25-2009, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Now in Houston!
922 posts, read 3,860,320 times
Reputation: 671
Quote:
Originally Posted by Giovanni1981 View Post
And BTW, Ikea doesn't ALWAYS surround itself with a sea of parking. Have you visited the Ikea in Brooklyn? No surface lots around that one.
The IKEA in Brooklyn does not have a surface lot but instead it has a huge garage. It is not on a Subway line either. You would never find enough land near a subway station without spending billions on it and dealing with the issue of demolishing whole neighborhoods. The Brooklyn store was built on some relatively empty industrial waterfront land in an area called Red Hook. They encountered a lot of typically fierce "NIMBY" opposition when they proposed building the store, so they had to provide concessions, like agreeing to build a waterfront esplanade and hiring quotas for nearby low-income residents.

To cater to the non-drivers, they run a free water taxi from Manhattan and free shuttle buses from a subway station in Downtown Brooklyn. They also make a fortune on delivery fees!

Just as the article said, IKEA just does not bother with metros of less than 2 million people. They only make money by doing huge volume.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-25-2009, 09:30 PM
 
1,515 posts, read 3,331,257 times
Reputation: 450
Thanks for clarifying that. I knew that it didn't make sense that Ikea would build a store without parking, without access to a subway, or (as you said, and I never thought of) a free shuttle.

It appears that Ikea has a couple of stores in smaller metros (I saw SLC and Cincy) but basically they might take a chance on growing areas like those, but an area of a million and quickly going down isn't going to attract much new retail investment.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-04-2017, 10:35 PM
 
93,185 posts, read 123,783,345 times
Reputation: 18253
Quote:
Originally Posted by sabredrew View Post
I'm learning a lot about Buffalo from my frequent visits and my thorough research, but I have a couple questions that I'm sure a local would have no problem answering.

First, why do so many call for the demolition of the Skyway through downtown? Is it mainly because it's an eyesore? What do the proponents of it's demolition suggest to put in it's place?

Similarly, my next question deals with the return of automobile traffic on Main St. downtown. My question seems almost silly but I can't seem to come up with an answer on my own. What will become of the metro rail trains that currently run above ground on Main? How will they be accommodated when the street welcomes autos again?
A couple of relatively recent articles about the Skyway: https://www.buffalorising.com/2016/0...of-the-skyway/

https://www.google.com/amp/wivb.com/...os-skyway/amp/
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > Buffalo area

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:38 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top