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07-07-2008, 09:56 AM
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Melting Money To Make Money?
While watching a TV show last night, they said that both the penny and the nickel are worth more in metal than their value is in money. So I wonder about the economics of melting them and selling them as metals. Of course you would have to factor in the energy cost to melt them into metals but if the economics were right, why not?
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07-07-2008, 11:10 AM
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"A" son of God not "The" Son of God!
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It is a fellony to destroy government property. Coins in your posession are still government property. It is probably similar to printing counterfiet bills. They are just ink and paper, but the government does not like you printing your own.
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07-07-2008, 11:12 AM
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Is that before or after serving your 5 year in the Atlanta Federal Pen? It's a federal offense to melt coinage or export coins to another country for melting.
But yeah, a nickel is worth about 6 cents, a penny is worty about 1.12 cents. You would need some high tech equipment to melt the metals, then expensive and dangerous chemicals or methods to seperate out the different metals in the coin.
I would say their is no return after factoring in the conversion process and cost to transport tons of coins and metals.
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07-07-2008, 11:33 AM
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so it's perfectly legit for the federal reserve to destroy money, but we the people cannot? There's nothing like waking up to the illusion of freedom but finding yourself living in chains to the federal bureaucracy. Wake up sheeple.
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07-07-2008, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TexianPatriot
so it's perfectly legit for the federal reserve to destroy money, but we the people cannot? There's nothing like waking up to the illusion of freedom but finding yourself living in chains to the federal bureaucracy. Wake up sheeple.
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Geez, time to go decaf. I don't exactly stay up at night worrying about my right to melt a nickel, nor do I worry that I have an FBI file because I put a penny under a train track when I was a kid. Their are more serious issues to worry about.
Hey, the supreme court ruled that those asinine city gun bans are unconsititutional just recently. Celebrate that big win, don't worry about the right to use a tin snip on a penny. I don't think "The Man" really cares, you know?
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07-08-2008, 01:40 AM
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nor do I worry that I have an FBI file because I put a penny under a train track when I was a kid.
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Now you do.... 
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07-08-2008, 03:21 AM
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Hmm,
When I was in Hawaii, they had this machine at the Dole Pinapple factory that cost a quarter to use. The machine would smash a penny and flatten it into a pineapple shaped coin. I guess this is a felony too? Destroying currency is a felony, I'm not sure about the penny though.
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07-08-2008, 08:48 AM
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It is not against the law to deface coins unless the defacing is done with the intent to commit fraud. It is illegal to write on or deface paper money. I've been "defacing' coins for over 38 years. See pic link below.
Picasa Web Albums - Rick - Cut out coins
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07-08-2008, 09:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dd714
Is that before or after serving your 5 year in the Atlanta Federal Pen? It's a federal offense to melt coinage or export coins to another country for melting.
But yeah, a nickel is worth about 6 cents, a penny is worty about 1.12 cents. You would need some high tech equipment to melt the metals, then expensive and dangerous chemicals or methods to seperate out the different metals in the coin.
I would say their is no return after factoring in the conversion process and cost to transport tons of coins and metals.
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Actually a penny (minted before 1982) is worth about 2.5 cents.
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07-08-2008, 09:52 AM
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The later issue pennies are actually copper plated zinc coins. And I believe that our nickles are still 75% copper alloyed with nickel (Cupro-nicklel).
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