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10-30-2008, 05:56 PM
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Who is goping to p[ay for all those governamnt jobs and of course once they have them they are going to nbe permanent. The governamnt seldom laysoff.Then the governamnt will be payignto move them. Its already cost millions to house those from Katrina three years going.
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10-30-2008, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bxlefty23
so your brilliant plan to keep jobs here is to tax them even more
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I have no "brilliant plan", I'm just saying what the problem is that created unemployment as the average person knows. Of coarse you sound like one of these executives that doesn't have to worry about a job or unemployment. Upper Management that sits back while the "pee ons" get layed off.
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10-30-2008, 06:34 PM
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Do Not Steal, the socialists hate competition
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Originally Posted by texdav
Who is goping to p[ay for all those governamnt jobs and of course once they have them they are going to nbe permanent. The governamnt seldom laysoff.Then the governamnt will be payignto move them. Its already cost millions to house those from Katrina three years going.
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The taxpayers already pay people to build infrastructure and right now, the problem is infrastructure is being built slowly and ill-maintained... the more government jobs means we cut the fat in government jobs that don't do anything for the public or are a complete waste of money... everyone benefits from more infrastructure that is well-maintained.. we don't pay them to move, they move on their own and can claim tax credits for the move... the people living in Katrina are more than likely not working for the government... they should be booted if they cannot find a home... they had three years which is plenty of enough time to find a place.. they rather live on handouts then make any other effort...
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10-30-2008, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by texdav
Who is goping to p[ay for all those governamnt jobs and of course once they have them they are going to nbe permanent. The governamnt seldom laysoff.Then the governamnt will be payignto move them. Its already cost millions to house those from Katrina three years going.
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Free markets should be able to "attract" people away from government jobs with new better paying more attractive jobs. When the "government" actually offers a better opportunity for employment than the free markets that's actually saying a lot about how far the standard of living has diminished for the middle class.
Since when did working for the post office or dmv beat working for X company? That was when America lost our competitiveness and when American companies sold US out (but want our handouts).
In theory... the government is the lender/financier of last resort... and also the "employer" of last resort. Sadly, it looks like there isn't many options for the middle class as middle class jobs are moved overseas or eliminated totally through automation. What do the American middle class do? when there aren't any middle class jobs? they become unemployed and disenchanted (when education/training means more debt)... or they work for any "government" job. This is actually happening to even the "educated"/skilled types these days with the fall of Wall Street. Retail, logistics, warehousing, etc. jobs...
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10-30-2008, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck22b
Free markets should be able to "attract" people away from government jobs with new better paying more attractive jobs. When the "government" actually offers a better opportunity for employment than the free markets that's actually saying a lot about how far the standard of living has diminished for the middle class.
Since when did working for the post office or dmv beat working for X company? That was when America lost our competitiveness and when American companies sold US out (but want our handouts).
In theory... the government is the lender/financier of last resort... and also the "employer" of last resort. Sadly, it looks like there isn't many options for the middle class as middle class jobs are moved overseas or eliminated totally through automation. What do the American middle class do? when there aren't any middle class jobs? they become unemployed and disenchanted (when education/training means more debt)... or they work for any "government" job. This is actually happening to even the "educated"/skilled types these days with the fall of Wall Street. Retail, logistics, warehousing, etc. jobs...
-chuck22b
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This is so true, and jobs disappearing has been happening for years now. In the 70's, I worked for Westinghouse Electric Corp. for 13 yrs. There were 3 big factories in the Newark, NJ area. By the early 1980's, they closed down. Along with Western Electric, RCA and others closing up.
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11-06-2008, 01:34 PM
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My unemployment extension has already expired. As a construction worker in Hawaii, (the construction unemployment rate is around 11% compared to the general state unemployment rate of only 4.8%), I am in the red and going under. The jobs in the classified section of the paper are VERY scarce, and I have been knocking on doors for months now to to avail. We NEED this second extension desperately! I sure hope they move quickly on this!
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11-06-2008, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The1Archangel1
My unemployment extension has already expired. As a construction worker in Hawaii, (the construction unemployment rate is around 11% compared to the general state unemployment rate of only 4.8%), I am in the red and going under. The jobs in the classified section of the paper are VERY scarce, and I have been knocking on doors for months now to to avail. We NEED this second extension desperately! I sure hope they move quickly on this!
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Today I read where they want to get the second stimulus package going, and the unemployment extension would be part of that. I am on my first extension.
I hope things work out for you, good luck!
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11-06-2008, 10:45 PM
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I think both will be coming whether it a good thing in the end or not.
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02-19-2009, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GregW
Unemployment should be available until you find another job no matter how long it takes. Raise the income tax on incomes over one million a year to 90% and let the financiers that made this mess pay for it.
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Yeah ... in a perfect world! 
The system is already taken advantage of, imagine if you could get endless money until you find work! 
Cool  .
Right now, we may not have a perfect system, but it's something.
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This year IRS guarantees they will accept our tax extension if filed.
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02-19-2009, 07:29 PM
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Right. Don't lower taxes. Wait for unemployment, then pass out the money. That way people will not be working. We don't want that.
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