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Old 12-23-2011, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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I also wonder where you have worked where someone could bluff their way through an interview? It's easy to tell if someone has really done something or not. We don't ask yes and no questions.
I and nearly everyone I know got a job through a friend or family member so the resume didn't really matter a whole lot anyway. I probably wouldn't bother sending one to someone I didn't already know.
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Lincoln, CA
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I and nearly everyone I know got a job through a friend or family member so the resume didn't really matter a whole lot anyway. I probably wouldn't bother sending one to someone I didn't already know.
That seems very subjective and I'm imagining that you live in a small town or work in an industry where qualifications don't matter. But to the rest of us who must rely on our actual skills and experience, a resume is the only thing we can use to find someone who's expertise extend beyond a relationship.
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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That seems very subjective and I'm imagining that you live in a small town or work in an industry where qualifications don't matter. But to the rest of us who must rely on our actual skills and experience, a resume is the only thing we can use to find someone who's expertise extend beyond a relationship.
Actually I live in a major metro (DC) and work in a management position for one of the world's largest companies. It really doesn't matter the size of the business. Interpersonal skills and networking trump anything you can put on a resume.
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:00 AM
 
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Resume's are important- most go to h.r managers- they are all about details

I do believe everyone should have a decent resume, but its the interview , thats the selling point-youve got to sell yourself
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Resume's are important- most go to h.r managers- they are all about details

I do believe everyone should have a decent resume, but its the interview , thats the selling point-youve got to sell yourself
Your best strategy is to bypass HR if you can. That's a black hole. Figure out how to get directly to the hiring manager. You can then follow-up with HR as a formality. Most corporate HR departments are a waste of time.
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Old 12-31-2011, 05:46 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle, originally from SF Bay Area
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As a hiring manager I am not allowed to talk to any potential candidates
until the interview, after myself and HR have evaluated the resumes and
ranked them to come up with a manageable number of people to bring in.
Even after the interviews if they call me I have to refer them to HR for any questions on the selection process. If someone applies that I know I would have to either play dumb and pretend not to or excuse myself from the interview. The legal departments are afraid of being sued, any company with over 50 employees have to follow a lot of rules to avoid accusations of preferential treatment or discrimination. Small businesses can hire friends, friends of friends and family all they want, and some larger ones
do but I would think the majority of them are going to have specific
procedures to follow and will not just skip that process to hire someone
the manager knows.

The interview is the opportunity to sell yourself but without a great resume
you won't get the interview.
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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As a hiring manager I am not allowed to talk to any potential candidates
until the interview, after myself and HR have evaluated the resumes and
ranked them to come up with a manageable number of people to bring in..
Your company is somewhat unusual. I've worked for some pretty big ones as a hiring manager and HR was usually more than happy to defer to me.
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