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So, are you saying you think they should be tested too?
Actually there is a lot of misinformation on the internet. I feel it is best when stating a fact, which might be controversial, to also back it up with a link from a reputable source. Simple as that.
Bascially nothig has changed since companies can test for both alcohol and drugs under the liabiltiy laws.Even legal drugs have to be reported with most compnaies so they can take approprate action to not have a person endanger others when working.Its no different than the drive ing under influence laws;you can be charged even if its a legal drug.
Bascially nothig has changed since companies can test for both alcohol and drugs under the liabiltiy laws.Even legal drugs have to be reported with most compnaies so they can take approprate action to not have a person endanger others when working.Its no different than the drive ing under influence laws;you can be charged even if its a legal drug.
This is the reason I mentioned "the legions of lawyers" licking their lips waiting to sort out just what it legal and what is not. All in all making Pot legal is a real nest of snakes with lots of teeth to sort out!
A drug and alcohol policy is permitted. While alcohol is legal, you can't operate a motor vehicle under the influence, the same will apply to those in Washington and Colorado with pot.
While you may be able to use, you cannot show up impaired, or be subject to drug testing. Some of those requirements are federal. It really won't open up the judicial gates like some assert. Policies are in place to limit liability, and ensure productivity.
I really don't see what the big deal is, as SD4020 stated.. Basically the same rules will apply to alcohol use. The only caveat is that marijuana stays in your system for much longer than alcohol. So if an employer really wants to get rid of you, they can "random" drug test you and fire you for failing without having to pay unemployment.
I know that multiple employees from different large companies I have friends with here in the Seattle area tell me that they're all basically still prohibited from partaking.
Doesn't surprise me. Google, Microsoft, Boeing (especially!), and major research hospitals here all say they're still forbidden from partaking because they're either federal contractors (and thus beholden to abide by federal law for businesses doing business with Uncle Sam) or medical professionals that while not forbidden, it would be "unbecoming" of a doctor to smoke pot. By and large, I agree.
So, in reality all this law has done is allowed employees from small companies to some medium ones to partake.
At the same time, none of those companies have random drug screening going on, so really it is up to the individual employees to adhere to the company policies.
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I have already seen plenty of evidence that people in Seattle are no longer trying to hide it, despite it still being illegal to light up in public. I walk from my office through the Market to Westlake Bus Tunnel every day and get a whiff of it 3-4 times, and see people standing in the open with lit up joints. I would guess that most of these are not working, but are buying it with the money given to them by the well-meaning but naive people that give money to panhandlers.
I have already seen plenty of evidence that people in Seattle are no longer trying to hide it, despite it still being illegal to light up in public. I walk from my office through the Market to Westlake Bus Tunnel every day and get a whiff of it 3-4 times, and see people standing in the open with lit up joints. I would guess that most of these are not working, but are buying it with the money given to them by the well-meaning but naive people that give money to panhandlers.
Yet another reason I never give money to panhandlers unless they're decent musicians. Like this one guy with a bagpipe once. He fairly rocked, I gave him a 5'er.
RE: smelling it in public ... you mean you didn't notice it before? Well ... cops have basically said that while they might have done something about it before, they're publicly stated they are not going to actively go after pot smokers in public. If you are driving under the influence, or acting stupid in public, or annoying other people then they might stiff you but yeah, it's right up there with pickpockets. Jaywalkers will be more likely to get tickets.
Every employer I've worked for, going all the way back to the 1970s, had a written policy prohibiting possession/consumption of alcoholic beverages on company premises, to include buildings, grounds, and parking areas.
So, if "alcohol free" work environments could be enforced on such a legal substance, why couldn't pot be treated the same way, even in jurisdictions where it becomes legal?
Every employer I've worked for, going all the way back to the 1970s, had a written policy prohibiting possession/consumption of alcoholic beverages on company premises, to include buildings, grounds, and parking areas.
So, if "alcohol free" work environments could be enforced on such a legal substance, why couldn't pot be treated the same way, even in jurisdictions where it becomes legal?
A person who drank heavily Friday after work will test negative for alcohol the next week. A person who smoked marijuana will test positive for as much as 30 days after use.
Kind of crappy to terminate someone who smoked legally while on vacation 2 weeks ago, yet keep on someone who gets plastered every weekend just because one substance can be detected mush longer after use.
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