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Old 01-27-2014, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Amherst
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And then there's all these idiot foreigners, mainly Russians and Chinese who, for whatever reason, gravitate to my listings like sailors to a strip club.

All of my auctions very clearly state that I do not ship outside the United States. Yet they constantly try to circumvent that by attempting to use a freight forwarding service. That, to me is dishonest, cheating, and unethical. And someone whose money I don't want.

Going outside the country offers no such protections and to me, a cheater is already guilty of fraud by default just by attempting to do that. And I have no control over the item during that crucial second leg between the forwarder and when the actual buyer receives it.

This is why Ebay came up with their Global Shipping Program. Provide proof that you mailed the item to Kentucky and the buyer has zero recourse from then on. Or, keep putting out that poisonous attitude of yours and let the international buyers spend their money on my listings.
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Old 01-27-2014, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Business ethics is an oxymoron.
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This is why Ebay came up with their Global Shipping Program.
-Which I want no part of. Can I be any more blunt by saying I have no desire to sell or ship to foreigners. Period. Yes, I understand that it's intentionally cutting off a large pool of potential buyers and that's a trade-off I can accept and live with.

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Provide proof that you mailed the item to Kentucky and the buyer has zero recourse from then on.
Like hell they don't. If you are a regular seller, then you should know full well how lopsided both Ebay and PayPal are with regards to complaints. A buyer need do nothing but *claim* a problem with little to no supporting documentation to receive an almost by default favorable judgement. Sellers on the other hand, must provide mountains of documentation including time stamped shipping receipts, photographs, videos, email correspondence, etc to even have a fighting chance at defeating a dishonest buyer. Many buyers know how uneven the playing field is and often try and take advantage of it.

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Or, keep putting out that poisonous attitude of yours and let the international buyers spend their money on my listings.
Let them. I don't care. Wait till you get hosed (and trust me...it will happen eventually). I don't understand why it's a "venomous attitude" for calling out people who don't know how to read, follow instructions, think the rules don't apply to them, and have to resort to end-run-around tactics.

I would like to expect that these jackasses would do me the courtesy of asking first. I'll evaluate them on a case-by-case basis. Otherwise, intentionally doing that is, to me, absolutely no different than an 18 year old trying to get around the drinking age laws by asking his 21 year old buddy to buy the beer for him.
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: All Over
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Never heard of either of those websites. I deal with 15 year Ebay vets all day every day and not one has heard of this. If it does exist I'm 1000% positive the seller deserved it. After a few million in sales Ebay has yet to withhold a nickel from me.
It's not something sellers "deserve" it has nothing to do with how you do your business. I have thousands of feedback, 100% feedback never gotten a negative and my DSR scores are nearly 100%. We are fully compliant of all paypal and ebay policies.

Paypal does however consider some categories to be "high risk" and once you start doing over 250k a month this is placed on every seller. Every seller in my niche doing that volume gets these holds so its nothing we brought on ourselves.

Also, who cares if you've heard of the sites I posted or not. Do a search of rolling reserves and you'll see stuff on paypals very own site about this.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Amherst
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Like hell they don't. If you are a regular seller, then you should know full well how lopsided both Ebay and PayPal are with regards to complaints. A buyer need do nothing but *claim* a problem with little to no supporting documentation to receive an almost by default favorable judgement. Sellers on the other hand, must provide mountains of documentation including time stamped shipping receipts, photographs, videos, email correspondence, etc to even have a fighting chance at defeating a dishonest buyer. Many buyers know how uneven the playing field is and often try and take advantage of it.

I am a regular seller, have been since the 90's, which is why I'm qualified to teach YOU how ebay works.

Mountains of documentation is not needed to prove that you shipped an item to Ebay's shipping center in Kentucky. A tracking number is. If the buyer complains, he has one choice, to send the item back for a refund. To receive that, he will have to eat all of the shipping he paid from Kentucky to his country, the customs he paid, and the return shipping back to your house. The seller only loses the initial shipping paid from his house to Kentucky, which is far less than what would have been lost dealing with an American scammer.

Keep living in your dream world where all international bidders are either dumb or con artists. They happen to be keeping Ebay thriving, unlike the spoiled sellers in the US who think running an online business is somehow supposed to be risk free.
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